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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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gene Stein welcome back to the power

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cast with gene and Chris except that we

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won't be hearing from Chris O'Brien

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today and there's a simple reason Chris

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is on special assignment over there in

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the mysterious valley he is not near an

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internet connection I tried to contact

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him on his mobile phone and it's in it's

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out I don't want to subject you to the

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poor quality audio so we'll be hearing

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more from Chris next week he'll have

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lots of say possibly about his trip

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although we hope he got a few days of

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relaxation now last week we had a simply

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fascinating episode we featured James

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carrion he is a former international

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director of MUFON the mutual UFO network

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and he came out with a book called the

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Rosetta deception which takes us back to

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the times of world war ii and the cold

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war and the efforts of particularly the

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US and Britain to kind of spook the

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russians into thinking that maybe we

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were for our more advanced in some of

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our developments then we really were now

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he talks about setting up this rosetta

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deception which essentially included

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some crack intelligence agents including

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Rear Admiral Roscoe Henry Hill and

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cutter who had become the first head of

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the CIA somewhat later now according to

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carry on some of the early so-called UFO

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was just a put up job they weren't real

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UFOs and he also has a subsequent book

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coming out which is about the Roswell

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deception so it's clear he feels that

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the Roswell UFO

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Fair was not a spaceship not something

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strange but perhaps a put-up job again

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maybe a test aircraft a balloon who

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knows it's true that the Roswell case is

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kind of disappeared after the first

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flurry of information first there's a

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story that they've captured a real

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flying disc a few hours later it says

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now not just a balloon and that pretty

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much put it into the story until the

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late 1970s when Stanton Friedman and

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were digging and they put together a

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book on the Roswell incident that became

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a best-seller and fueled interests in

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the case on the part of a lot of people

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so what can I say it doesn't mean there

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was no Roswell UFO certainly it's part

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of our pop culture perhaps it is as they

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claim perhaps they did recover bodies of

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dying or dead aliens there perhaps it's

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already being held at what hangar 18 or

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wright-patterson Air Force Base I know

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that researcher Kevin Randle along with

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his so-called Roswell dream team they're

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trying to put together all the

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information as a cold case and see if

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they can come up with final answers the

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key of course is that pretty much all

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the witnesses are no longer here a lot

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of the testimony is secondhand

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third-hand maybe some documents will be

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found but we hope then if there is a

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case there that's been kept a secret for

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what 67 years or so we'll get a handle

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on it and I look forward to seeing what

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James carrion has to say I was pleased

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though that we didn't get the negative

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reaction I expected in the power cast

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forums about the show partly because

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carrion is very skeptical in his

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approach and he seems to be less

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inclined to accept the possibility of

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unknowns although he doesn't dismiss the

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possibility but it's certainly true that

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we should really pay heed to the fact

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test aircraft may have generated UFO

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sightings particularly in those early

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it doesn't mean that the thousands of

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people who saw UFOs didn't see something

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that's an unknown that we still do not

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understand but if there is an element

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that involves disinformation

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intelligence efforts whatever we should

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find out about it let's get back to Rear

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Admiral Helen cutter okay

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Naval Academy together at night camp the

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national investigations Committee on

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aerial phenomena where Rear Admiral

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obviously retired became a member of

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their board of governors now we have to

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look at perceptions here we have

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nightcap which in the 50s and 60s fought

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against what they called UFO secrecy and

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then you look at a board of governors

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heavily laden with ex-military and

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certainly having the former head of the

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CIA among that group

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even if he's a classmate former

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classmate of major Keyhoe close friend

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you know it doesn't look very good does

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and over the years there were suspicions

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at night cap was just a disinformation

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operation now I don't necessarily

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believe that I think they were very

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sincere in what they did I did meet

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years and he appeared to be perfectly

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sincere in his belief that UFOs were

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spaceships that the government knew the

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truth but you know appearances count for

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a lot and when you have an organization

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filled with intelligence people the

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first question you ask is why what do

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you need to have all these people there

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knowing that some will suspect the

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organization and its motives surely he

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could find 10 or 12 people in civilian

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military credentials possibly serving a

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tour of duty or to to be part of his

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organization but nycap is essentially

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long gone but that was the way

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were back in the early days of UFO

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research I should recommend a site that

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actually we run from our server it's

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managed by a Kirk Collins has been on

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the show a number of times he has

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explored the cache Landrum case but he

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also is the curator of Jim Mosely calm

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as Jim Mosely comm in honor of my late

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friend James W Mosely or Jim Mosely he

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was the editor publisher of saucer smear

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called Nexus that later became saucer

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news and very recently they reprinted

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what's called the Adamski expose issue

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of saucer news over Jim Mosely calm

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that's where they take apart step by

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step the original claims in 1952 by

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George Adamski that he met Beatty in the

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California desert rips them apart it's

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one of the best expose sever of that

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case and it astounds me after all these

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years that there are people out there

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who still believe that George Adamski

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really contacted et that he had a

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genuine encounter with one or more

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aliens after all these years after this

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expose there was also evidence in that

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expose issue by the way of the

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photographs that Adamski produced of

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UFOs being close-up pictures of small

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models I think that's incontrovertible I

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don't think there's any reason to doubt

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it but again you know what is old is new

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the expose zuv Adamski way back in the

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early years may still believe his claims

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experience early on the same as possibly

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other contactees and maybe he decided to

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find a way to promote those claims I

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don't know once again

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Jim Mosely dot-com and the site's

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managed by a Kirk Collins and run from

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our server and we are pleased that Curt

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has decided to dedicate his time and

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energy for it today we're going to talk

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about pretty much traditional UFO

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research and we're going to be speaking

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with Stan

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Gordan a pennsylvania-based paranormal

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researcher he covers UFOs Bigfoot lots

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of interesting subjects and of course

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this weekend there's a Kecksburg UFO

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festival in honor of the crashed X Berg

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UFO back in the 1960s for those

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listeners who are new the show and every

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week we hear from lots of people who

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haven't heard the show before I'm going

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to ask Stan right at the beginning to

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quickly sum up Kecksburg I'm going to

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ask him also if he thinks it was just a

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military test aircraft that's certainly

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apt considering what's going on once

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again Chris O'Brien's on assignment in a

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place where he's unable to connect to

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the internet or cell phone lots more to

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Stan Gordon coming up you're in the para

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cast first game attack of the rock codes

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and it was a critically acclaimed

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success and now there is the coming of

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the protectors a former military

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intelligence man is contacted by a space

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woman in a dream a dream that turns out

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to be a nightmare because evil forces on

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our distant planet are planning to

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conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock ODEs and

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the coming of the protectors

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find out more at Rocko it's calm that's

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what happened I was placing an order

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online the site went down it took hours

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before it returned but I'd already

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placed the order with another company if

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business and if you have a business or

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iWeb your site is hosted on one of the

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most reliable networks in the world talk

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to a sales rep at a web.com use the

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promo code tech night-owl for a special

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discount Adam Miller here with Midas

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resources today July 25th 2014 gold

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opened at twelve ninety five sixty a one

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ounce gold coin to be purchased for

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that's 13 42 71 671 35 and 335 68 hi

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this is Ted Anderson have you ever

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wondered why banks stock brokers

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investment advisors won't talk about

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gold IRAs wait a sec gold and silver is

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going up while Congress is trying to

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settle on the next debt increase and

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there's no end of this madness that old

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401 K and IRA can be converted into

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physical gold without tax consequences I

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explained this in my book 10 reasons to

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buy gold

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copy today 800 686 22:37 get away from

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that Washington spin and get honest

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answers about gold 800 686 2237 the book

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2237 got a simple question for you can

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you sell yes

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okay can you sell the intangible if yes

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through Friday with no overtime no

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gene and Chris Chris is on special

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assignment at a location where there is

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no internet connection where the cell

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phone system simply doesn't work what we

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mean is like every third word vanishes

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into digital haze Stan Gordon you're

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talking from a landline right that's

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correct so we don't have to worry about

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digital haze you're correct

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okay I just wonder in this day and age

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hundreds of millions of people have

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wireless phones and there are parts of

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this country in other countries you can

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travel to where reception is either

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non-existent or simply unacceptable

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after all these years we can't get it

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together we need ETS help I think that's

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it well you'd be surprised there's quite

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a number of areas here in Pennsylvania

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where I go out to investigate deep in

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the woods are down in the valleys and

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there's very little cell phone signal so

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it's even some of the eye area is not

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that far away from populated areas we're

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having some problems well I lived in

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Pennsylvania like many many years ago

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back in the 1970s and still some of the

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greatest years of my life but life has

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taken us elsewhere but I lived in

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Southeast Pennsylvania near Downingtown

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Coatesville area you're familiar with

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that oh yeah okay and I remember then I

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was working

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news director for a local radio station

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and they had UFO sightings reported in

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the area and I was news director

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supposedly a serious reporter and I'd

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run the stories and follow up on them

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fortunately the management of the

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station indulged me which doesn't happen

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very often and they let me get away with

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it so what year was uh Ben Jean oh

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heavens early seventies you remember

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when they had before and I was probably

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I was probably involved in a lot of

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those investigations because I I know

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the names of those towns and I know we

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had many cases in the early 70s down

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that general area so I probably was

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looking through all those reports tenet

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Square Pennsylvania I remember something

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there right this is about 40 miles west

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of Philadelphia there was a lot of

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activity down in that area during the

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70s during the 80s and the 90s and I

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still get reports I just had a very

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interesting sighting happened down

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probably not you partner down in Snyder

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County on Monday but I think I found

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that not too far from that area so I

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have to look a look on the map well

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unfortunately the station I worked for

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completely switched from just regular

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music middle-of-the-road music easy

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listening music to religion so it's run

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by something called the Holy Spirit

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radio foundation nowadays so even if we

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wanted to get this show to be carried in

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that area he wouldn't be W co J unless

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they changed format you see with radio

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stations you know they buy them they

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sell them they change formats every day

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stand for our new listeners can you tell

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us what attracted you to UFOs because

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you've been doing it before I guess most

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of your life well just he'll be 55 years

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you must be very tired I'm tired but

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still interested and still very very

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busy I getting a lots of reports here on

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a regular basis still investigating

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cases I start there educating the public

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on these events and so I'm very busy and

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I still have to tell you Jean after all

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these years I have still never seen a

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UFO fix with myself interviewed

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thousands of witnesses seen a lot of

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evidence out in the field we gather but

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I've never had a personal encounter kind

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of like me seriously I may have seen

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something once with my first wife

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Jeanine

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back in the late 60s otherwise I well a

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lot of these investigations in the early

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years not so much now they answer your

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question how I got involved early was my

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birthday my tenth birthday is when I

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really got involved in this field back

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in 1959 how I got involved my my

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birthday happens to be during the

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Halloween season and my parents gave me

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a new radio an AM radio as a birthday

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gift and I was turning around the AM

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radio dial that night and there was her

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radio shows talking about strange and

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unusual events from haunted houses -

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ghost flying saucers and strange

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creatures and well at ten years old I

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was already really interested in science

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electronics and I spent a lot of time

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out in the woods gathering samples

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looking at my microscope and I heard

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these stories I want to know how these

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people make these things up is there

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something to it so I began to make a lot

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of frequent visits to the local

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Greensburg library where I live

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and Randy all the books they had I began

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to read all the papers very cautiously

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to see was any news stories about I need

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your app things I would clip articles

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out make scrapbooks and if something

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would appear in the local paper somebody

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claimed to have seen a UFO for example I

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called them on the phone and asked them

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to tell me the story about what they saw

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and I kept records of it and that's what

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I did for a long time and then I was 16

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years old when the incident happened

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your Kecksburg which is about 12 miles

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from where I live in Greensburg

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Pennsylvania and I got involved with it

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the night had happened which I can tell

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you that story as well it's uh how it

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all broke and how the tech spring event

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came to my attention was I was tuned

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into ktk radio in Pittsburgh and you

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remember KDK was was one of the big

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stations of the country let's just pause

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for a second explain this you have these

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so-called Clear Channel Radio stations

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not like Clear Channel the company that

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owns you know thousands of stations and

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has two premiere radio networks and

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everything we're talking about a station

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that's on a lower frequency in the am

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dial because there is no real

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competition from other stations they

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could radiate in all directions and with

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50,000 Watts 50,000 Watts they could be

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heard in a number of states for example

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you were mentioning discussions of UFOs

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another station that had that

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wor 710 and long-john Nebel would run

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his show every night five nights a week

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from New York City 14:40 Broadway in New

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York City and he featured all these

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discussions about UFOs and that's one

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way I kept interested in the subject

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we'll talk a little bit now about

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Kecksburg we're going to have to pause

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for a moment for our benefactors let's

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start with Kecksburg for the sake of new

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listeners if you heard this all before

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well tolerated for a second okay so

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Kecksburg occurs you're sixteen years

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old

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yep it's December 9th 1965 okay it's a

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Thursday evening I'm good than the ktk

490
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radio to listen to a radio talk-show is

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called contact and the host of the show

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was a late Mike Levine and the reason I

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was listening to that show is because he

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had a guest on whose name you will

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remember with Frank Edwards who was a

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reporter who had written some books and

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I need what happenings and flying

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saucers and I was tuned in to listen to

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him what was most interesting is is that

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pretty much the entire show was

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spotlighting this UFO incident which

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this happened a short time before the

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news was just breaking they were reading

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the newswire stories or just starting to

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come over they are interviewing

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00:21:24,990 --> 00:21:23,350
reporters and local witnesses and what

507
00:21:27,180 --> 00:21:25,000
we were learning at that time was this

508
00:21:29,310 --> 00:21:27,190
brilliant fireball had been seen from

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00:21:31,410 --> 00:21:29,320
Ontario Canada / Michigan Ohio in

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Pennsylvania and according to the

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reports coming in that object whatever

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00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:34,690
was came in over the Greater Pittsburgh

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area that afternoon is just getting dark

514
00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:41,710
almost dark about 4:47 p.m. and it was a

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very interesting program well as the

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evening went on this began to be the

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major news story throughout the area and

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it was being broadcast on radio and even

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on the KDK TV they will break it in with

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live reports that evening that the

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military was now arriving in the

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Kecksburg area that small farming

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community to search for an unidentified

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flying object it was a fascinating night

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00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:09,610
to remember and I wasn't driving it I

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00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:10,809
had no way to get out there and I was

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running back and forth between our old

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black-and-white console TV and and the

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radio stations trying to get all the

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latest information and it kept on all

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night

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it was a big primary news story there

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00:22:24,669 --> 00:22:22,610
was a lot of description about it well I

534
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was hopeful that the next day this would

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make some of the newspapers and it in

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fact was the headline of all the local

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papers in the area you know that's us

538
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:33,080
pause this here and then we'll go into

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00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:35,570
that I remember the days when UFOs would

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actually get covered in Asian newspapers

541
00:22:49,450 --> 00:22:41,480
of the day Stan Gordon joins us you're

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00:22:51,970 --> 00:22:49,460
in the para cast independently leading

543
00:22:55,779 --> 00:22:51,980
the way for the nation compelling talk

544
00:23:02,680 --> 00:22:55,789
for every political persuasion we are G

545
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:02,690
C and is there a secret UFO agenda to

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00:23:07,450 --> 00:23:04,730
strange creatures from the darkest

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00:23:09,730 --> 00:23:07,460
corners of the mind roam the earth is

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paranormal investigator Stan Gordon he's

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talking about the fact that the day

656
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after the Kecksburg UFO sighting reports

657
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that he heard on radio and television

658
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they appeared in the newspapers major

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headlines and what did they report well

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the local paper here the Greensburg

661
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cribbing if you had two editions at the

662
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time The Morning Edition had the

663
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headline army ropes off the area

664
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unidentified flying object falls into

665
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Kecksburg the Pittsburgh post-gazette

666
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:56,870
the Pacific press both had headlines

667
00:28:01,960 --> 00:27:59,360
pertaining to the UFO incident the later

668
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edition of the green security review had

669
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a number of different stories and

670
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interviews but the one that attracted my

671
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,030
attention right away was searchers fail

672
00:28:13,150 --> 00:28:10,880
to find object so it went on to say that

673
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you know this object we poorly fell down

674
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this is Witter ravine that there are

675
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multitudes of

676
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witnesses out at the scene who had come

677
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from all over the Pittsburgh area

678
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because as this story is breaking in a

679
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broadcasting on the news hundreds of

680
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people from throughout western

681
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Pennsylvania began to descend on the

682
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small farming community to try to get a

683
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look of whatever it was it fell down

684
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into the woods they were of course

685
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stopped by the authorities they weren't

686
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able to get down in and not only did you

687
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have the fact that you had a lot of

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citizens but you had reporters from all

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the major news facilities from

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Pittsburgh radio newspaper and TV who

691
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came out there as well

692
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and many of them became witnesses

693
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themselves because they either saw

694
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military person or equipment or

695
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interacted with the military at

696
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different level so I interviewed those

697
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:01,040
people as well so it became part of the

698
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story as I was telling you earlier you

699
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,810
know the the addition of the treatment

700
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:07,520
had Searchers failed to find object and

701
00:29:13,540 --> 00:29:09,890
went on to say that there was a search

702
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of the area but apparently witnesses had

703
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been mistaken this is official line now

704
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that people had seen a bright meteor in

705
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the sky but nothing had fallen to the

706
00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:21,740
ground and that's officially the end the

707
00:29:26,260 --> 00:29:23,990
destroyed the only official document

708
00:29:28,660 --> 00:29:26,270
that has ever service on the case was

709
00:29:30,970 --> 00:29:28,670
from the Project Blue Book file and it

710
00:29:33,610 --> 00:29:30,980
doesn't listed under Kecksburg it listed

711
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:33,620
under Acme Pennsylvania and I felt for a

712
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long time the reason for that is because

713
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I know that an air force officer

714
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interviewed some of family members who

715
00:29:43,420 --> 00:29:41,840
were involved in the case who lived

716
00:29:45,730 --> 00:29:43,430
within walking distance of where the

717
00:29:47,380 --> 00:29:45,740
object fell but their mailing address

718
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:47,390
was under an act near as in Kecksburg

719
00:29:52,930 --> 00:29:50,690
these are very very little small

720
00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:52,940
communities so they have different

721
00:29:57,010 --> 00:29:55,220
mailing addresses and it was under Acme

722
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:57,020
so I thought that's why they probably

723
00:30:00,990 --> 00:29:59,120
lives it under Acme Pennsylvania but

724
00:30:04,030 --> 00:30:01,000
anyhow you know as this story is

725
00:30:06,250 --> 00:30:04,040
circulating I remember within days after

726
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:06,260
it happened that there was a lot of talk

727
00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:07,850
around this area from people who were

728
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:09,710
around them that night who saw this

729
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:11,930
large military flatbed tractor-trailer

730
00:30:16,390 --> 00:30:14,480
truck Kenna's large tarp up together the

731
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:16,400
area at a high rate of speed around one

732
00:30:20,260 --> 00:30:17,840
o'clock in the morning Chris that was

733
00:30:23,170 --> 00:30:20,270
never in newspapers but additionally

734
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:23,180
nothing fell nothing was found but you

735
00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:25,250
know I spent well this year is going to

736
00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:27,710
be 49 years of research on the case and

737
00:30:32,769 --> 00:30:30,590
I started basically the day

738
00:30:34,509 --> 00:30:32,779
the story broke and I began to try to

739
00:30:35,980 --> 00:30:34,519
track down people who were involved to

740
00:30:38,139 --> 00:30:35,990
get information but there was very

741
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,149
little to get at the time this was a

742
00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:40,399
small community I really knew hardly

743
00:30:45,249 --> 00:30:42,230
anybody around that area there were a

744
00:30:48,190 --> 00:30:45,259
few names in the paper but as I began to

745
00:30:49,539 --> 00:30:48,200
try to gather information put word out I

746
00:30:52,090 --> 00:30:49,549
was looking for everybody over a period

747
00:30:53,710 --> 00:30:52,100
of weeks and months and years well since

748
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:53,720
then I've now interviewed hundreds of

749
00:30:57,850 --> 00:30:55,370
people who were involved in the case

750
00:31:00,190 --> 00:30:57,860
we've been able to put together a quite

751
00:31:01,899 --> 00:31:00,200
a lot of information even though there's

752
00:31:02,769 --> 00:31:01,909
only answered questions we put a lot of

753
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:02,779
the case together

754
00:31:08,259 --> 00:31:04,840
so one thing we now know is this

755
00:31:09,730 --> 00:31:08,269
whatever this object was as it came over

756
00:31:12,220 --> 00:31:09,740
the Greater Pittsburgh area that

757
00:31:14,590 --> 00:31:12,230
afternoon and multitudes of people were

758
00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:14,600
calling into the local news media to the

759
00:31:18,009 --> 00:31:16,369
police departments because a lot of

760
00:31:19,869 --> 00:31:18,019
people thought them but they saw this

761
00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:19,879
brilliant fiery object may have been an

762
00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:21,470
airplane that made of exploiters in the

763
00:31:26,169 --> 00:31:24,409
sky was on fire and this object

764
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:26,179
continued out into Westmoreland County

765
00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:28,610
came over my hometown over the city of

766
00:31:33,249 --> 00:31:31,190
Greensburg but what we now know is it it

767
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:33,259
tracked out towards Route 30 East but

768
00:31:38,739 --> 00:31:36,320
then it turned to the south and various

769
00:31:40,989 --> 00:31:38,749
people on the small communities they see

770
00:31:42,460 --> 00:31:40,999
this object continuing to move out in

771
00:31:44,499 --> 00:31:42,470
the distance over towards the mountains

772
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:44,509
of Laurel Ville and others around there

773
00:31:49,690 --> 00:31:46,970
saw it and a turn to begin to track back

774
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,700
towards Kecksburg made another turn then

775
00:31:53,710 --> 00:31:51,679
drop down into the wooded ravine

776
00:31:56,049 --> 00:31:53,720
now the people I interviewed saw it go

777
00:31:58,359 --> 00:31:56,059
down said it didn't go down at a high

778
00:32:00,220 --> 00:31:58,369
rate of speed as if he'd have a ran tree

779
00:32:01,690 --> 00:32:00,230
of space debris or meat you were coming

780
00:32:03,940 --> 00:32:01,700
in but it came down almost like it was

781
00:32:05,529 --> 00:32:03,950
controlled so what we now know is this

782
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:05,539
there were a number of independent

783
00:32:10,269 --> 00:32:07,610
people who apparently went down into the

784
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:10,279
woods soon after it fell they came

785
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:13,129
across as large metallic acorn shaped

786
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:15,769
object Milles than writing one witness

787
00:32:19,810 --> 00:32:17,210
who was several feet away from it he

788
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:19,820
studied it pretty well and four years

789
00:32:25,299 --> 00:32:22,610
after he went to libraries to search and

790
00:32:26,739 --> 00:32:25,309
and learn about ancient writings and and

791
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:26,749
he said the closest thing he could

792
00:32:31,149 --> 00:32:28,490
recall from what he try to remember of

793
00:32:32,859 --> 00:32:31,159
seeing was as was ancient Egyptian

794
00:32:35,769 --> 00:32:32,869
hieroglyphics let me ask you very

795
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:35,779
quickly here there is therefore no

796
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:38,720
record of anyone actually recording what

797
00:32:44,110 --> 00:32:41,840
this labeling involved it was just a

798
00:32:46,899 --> 00:32:44,120
memory that never glyphic

799
00:32:49,810 --> 00:32:46,909
later correct okay anyhow there are

800
00:32:51,490 --> 00:32:49,820
multitudes of stories and you have to

801
00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:51,500
see the layout of the land where this

802
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:54,230
happened because there was a small

803
00:32:58,930 --> 00:32:56,720
narrow country road that parallel on

804
00:33:01,000 --> 00:32:58,940
this very big wooded area and it was up

805
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:01,010
on top of that hill that overlooks that

806
00:33:05,529 --> 00:33:03,650
whole village area where hundreds of

807
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:05,539
people GML rode that night that's where

808
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,279
reporters were and many people were

809
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:09,200
trying to get a look at this thing but

810
00:33:12,850 --> 00:33:11,330
by the time they get there it's Park so

811
00:33:14,620 --> 00:33:12,860
basically they're saying a lot they're

812
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,630
seeing some authorities and people up

813
00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:16,159
where they are but what they didn't

814
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:18,950
realize was most of the activity was way

815
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:21,049
down the hops inside of the woods they

816
00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:22,640
wouldn't be able to see down there you

817
00:33:26,649 --> 00:33:24,679
could not possibly see where the object

818
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,659
fell from any of the surrounding roads

819
00:33:30,190 --> 00:33:28,399
even a day like you couldn't possibly

820
00:33:32,649 --> 00:33:30,200
see it you have to be down in the ravine

821
00:33:35,289 --> 00:33:32,659
to see where this object fell so anyhow

822
00:33:37,149 --> 00:33:35,299
we now know that some individual

823
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:37,159
civilians got in there first

824
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:40,070
then later there were some volunteer

825
00:33:43,510 --> 00:33:41,690
firemen that came in it came across the

826
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:43,520
object and then the military came in

827
00:33:48,970 --> 00:33:46,159
there are multitudes of amazing stories

828
00:33:51,130 --> 00:33:48,980
what people did how they interacted with

829
00:33:53,409 --> 00:33:51,140
the military and the fact now that a

830
00:33:56,289 --> 00:33:53,419
number of people going on public record

831
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:56,299
stated that soldiers who came out to

832
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:58,730
that area there are on other people's

833
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:00,799
private property they're preventing

834
00:34:04,990 --> 00:34:02,809
other civilians from going down into the

835
00:34:06,669 --> 00:34:05,000
ravine to see what was down there and in

836
00:34:10,899 --> 00:34:06,679
some cases they are aiming their weapons

837
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:10,909
to civilians let me ask you something

838
00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:12,770
here we have to kind of move this fast

839
00:34:16,210 --> 00:34:14,030
because we've covered some of this

840
00:34:18,909 --> 00:34:16,220
before so let's cut to the chase here

841
00:34:21,879 --> 00:34:18,919
now in the hieroglyphic type of writing

842
00:34:24,609 --> 00:34:21,889
and how many people by the way confirm

843
00:34:27,129 --> 00:34:24,619
that particular version of the story I

844
00:34:29,379 --> 00:34:27,139
can't say exactly it would not be a big

845
00:34:32,770 --> 00:34:29,389
numbers I mean I can think of three or

846
00:34:34,419 --> 00:34:32,780
four I'm just gonna guess and I after so

847
00:34:36,730 --> 00:34:34,429
many years talking so many people and

848
00:34:39,399 --> 00:34:36,740
there were people again who saw it on

849
00:34:40,450 --> 00:34:39,409
the flatbed truck and some people were

850
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:40,460
able to see the hieroglyphic markings

851
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:42,530
when it moved by the on the on the

852
00:34:45,970 --> 00:34:43,040
flatbed

853
00:34:47,470 --> 00:34:45,980
one other witness I like Terry bettors

854
00:34:50,290 --> 00:34:47,480
was well known in the area as a jazz

855
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:50,300
musician he saw it coming up out of the

856
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:52,010
field on the army flatbed / for whatever

857
00:34:56,260 --> 00:34:54,260
reason at that point the tarp was not on

858
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:56,270
it or was off of it so he could see the

859
00:34:59,440 --> 00:34:57,650
markings on that as well

860
00:35:01,450 --> 00:34:59,450
so there were different people saw it at

861
00:35:04,510 --> 00:35:01,460
different locations I'm gonna say

862
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:04,520
probably under ten okay so ten people

863
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:06,050
saw this did they all describe

864
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,970
essentially the same type of lettering

865
00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:10,400
oh yeah very much I mean it's very but

866
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:14,600
not everybody was as close and you know

867
00:35:19,150 --> 00:35:16,310
a few people who got down into the

868
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:19,160
ravine and slide so we know at least a

869
00:35:23,110 --> 00:35:21,170
few a handful of people were close

870
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:23,120
enough down in the field that they were

871
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:24,710
able to get a look but it wasn't till

872
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years and years later that they really

873
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gave it much thought because the next

874
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:29,900
day one that's in the paper and the

875
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government saying there was nothing down

876
00:35:33,070 --> 00:35:31,430
there

877
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:33,080
they all just kept their mouth shut I

878
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,400
mean they told relatives and a couple

879
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:36,320
friends but for years and years and

880
00:35:42,010 --> 00:35:39,200
years they kept it very very quiet well

881
00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:42,020
there's also been changes to the

882
00:35:47,380 --> 00:35:43,670
government's description like for

883
00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:47,390
example I understand back in 2005 they

884
00:35:52,780 --> 00:35:49,550
claimed what was there were the remnants

885
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:52,790
of a Russian satellite but since when do

886
00:35:58,420 --> 00:35:55,280
the Russians use hieroglyphic lettering

887
00:36:00,480 --> 00:35:58,430
yes maybe the Egyptian has had a secret

888
00:36:04,420 --> 00:36:00,490
space program that we knew nothing about

889
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:04,430
well there were a number of different

890
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:07,730
possible origins for the object and one

891
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:09,280
of the first things that we looked into

892
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:11,570
because it was interesting because we

893
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:12,800
uncovered some information which

894
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:15,110
indicated that a Soviet Venus probe

895
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:19,490
Kosmos 96 had coincidentally re-entered

896
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:22,160
the Earth's atmosphere at 3:18 a.m. in

897
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:24,650
the morning in Canada let's stop there

898
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:26,240
let me do that let me stop it there and

899
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do the brick in Canada all right let's

900
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follow that to see if there's any

901
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relationship with Stan Gordon joining us

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1010
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wrap up in this segment the description

1011
00:41:31,309 --> 00:41:25,029
of the text burg UFO case from December

1012
00:41:34,349 --> 00:41:31,319
of 1965 okay so a Soviet space probe is

1013
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:34,359
described as one possibility

1014
00:41:39,779 --> 00:41:37,839
so yay or nay Stan Gordon well the

1015
00:41:41,279 --> 00:41:39,789
information we have and it was a lot of

1016
00:41:43,019 --> 00:41:41,289
research done over the years on it but

1017
00:41:45,390 --> 00:41:43,029
first of all what we know about cosmos

1018
00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:45,400
96 it didn't have the capability to come

1019
00:41:49,859 --> 00:41:47,740
in slowly make changes direction make a

1020
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:49,869
slow descent and it was much smaller in

1021
00:41:53,099 --> 00:41:51,490
size compared to what witnesses

1022
00:41:55,140 --> 00:41:53,109
described out of the scene there was

1023
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:55,150
some contact made I know four years ago

1024
00:41:58,769 --> 00:41:57,130
with some of the news media and later I

1025
00:42:01,980 --> 00:41:58,779
had contact with the Russian space

1026
00:42:04,829 --> 00:42:01,990
agency and they indicated that there was

1027
00:42:06,329 --> 00:42:04,839
no indication to Kosmos 96 had any

1028
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:06,339
relationship to what fell down in

1029
00:42:09,329 --> 00:42:07,690
Kecksburg Pennsylvania could remember

1030
00:42:10,829 --> 00:42:09,339
they had some really good tracking

1031
00:42:12,539 --> 00:42:10,839
facilities just like we did back in

1032
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:12,549
those days if something editors had

1033
00:42:16,109 --> 00:42:14,170
fallen they would have wanted it back

1034
00:42:18,509 --> 00:42:16,119
and there was never a paper trail found

1035
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:18,519
where that was requested so there's many

1036
00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:20,049
many unanswered questions I've had

1037
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:22,750
numerous people over the years contact

1038
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:24,910
me and say they knew for sure what the

1039
00:42:29,339 --> 00:42:26,890
Kecksburg object was there were many

1040
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:29,349
different origins we heard from the

1041
00:42:34,499 --> 00:42:31,450
first one at the time it happened was

1042
00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:34,509
when a Air Force officer told members of

1043
00:42:38,249 --> 00:42:36,460
a family who were involved that a

1044
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,259
Germany capsule had been expelled in the

1045
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:40,240
area which of course we know that was

1046
00:42:45,089 --> 00:42:42,490
never the case and then another one of

1047
00:42:46,769 --> 00:42:45,099
other different possibilities of people

1048
00:42:49,890 --> 00:42:46,779
calling me was one guy said he was

1049
00:42:51,749 --> 00:42:49,900
certain it was a Soviet ICBM another one

1050
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:51,759
said he was sure that it was some type

1051
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:54,130
of projectile that was fired from a

1052
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,710
giant gun on a railroad car in Canada

1053
00:43:01,019 --> 00:42:58,720
and of course more recent years people

1054
00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:01,029
have been inquiring is could this be the

1055
00:43:05,249 --> 00:43:03,160
Soviet Nazi bell but once again I've

1056
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:05,259
never seen any indication or any

1057
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:07,210
evidence that the two are related but

1058
00:43:10,980 --> 00:43:08,650
they and there's many facets of this

1059
00:43:13,259 --> 00:43:10,990
case which are very very interesting I'm

1060
00:43:15,870 --> 00:43:13,269
not sure if we even got into and prior

1061
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:15,880
shows before one thing it's not as well

1062
00:43:20,849 --> 00:43:18,490
known that has come up is information

1063
00:43:22,650 --> 00:43:20,859
now that there is the possibility that

1064
00:43:24,509 --> 00:43:22,660
someone or something may have been

1065
00:43:26,970 --> 00:43:24,519
inside which we didn't know that years

1066
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ago what about the possibility this was

1067
00:43:31,810 --> 00:43:29,289
one of our test aircraft which is one

1068
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:31,820
why was retrieved so quickly number two

1069
00:43:35,290 --> 00:43:33,650
why they didn't say very much about it

1070
00:43:37,690 --> 00:43:35,300
you know after so many years was doing

1071
00:43:39,010 --> 00:43:37,700
research on the case I keep an open mind

1072
00:43:41,050 --> 00:43:39,020
still as to what the orator and the

1073
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:41,060
object was I mean if you remember back

1074
00:43:44,590 --> 00:43:42,410
in the early days at a space program

1075
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:44,600
almost everything I can recall seeing

1076
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,330
Soviet or US you saw a lot of rivets and

1077
00:43:51,220 --> 00:43:49,040
Walmart's and seams according to

1078
00:43:52,690 --> 00:43:51,230
witnesses this was like one smooth tall

1079
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:52,700
piece of metal which was kind of

1080
00:43:56,050 --> 00:43:54,170
interesting the way it was designed as

1081
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:56,060
well the other thing it came up is when

1082
00:44:00,310 --> 00:43:58,130
I was producing my documentary on the

1083
00:44:02,290 --> 00:44:00,320
case called Kecksburg enfold story one

1084
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:02,300
of the people I interviewed was a fella

1085
00:44:06,460 --> 00:44:03,890
named Myron and he had worked for a

1086
00:44:08,530 --> 00:44:06,470
large supply house in Ohio at the time

1087
00:44:11,050 --> 00:44:08,540
this event happened Maier was one of

1088
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many many people that contacted me after

1089
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:13,640
we did a season premiere in 1994 the

1090
00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:15,650
unsolved mysteries TV show when he

1091
00:44:18,970 --> 00:44:17,540
called me said I guess I'm allowed to

1092
00:44:22,990 --> 00:44:18,980
talk about it now since as on television

1093
00:44:25,570 --> 00:44:23,000
so Myron went on to tell me that he was

1094
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:25,580
one of two truck drivers who had taken a

1095
00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:28,640
special order of clays engineering brick

1096
00:44:33,220 --> 00:44:30,550
to wright-patterson Air Force Base

1097
00:44:35,260 --> 00:44:33,230
several days after the object had been

1098
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:35,270
recovered in Pennsylvania first truck

1099
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:36,650
driver for quite a while he didn't

1100
00:44:40,540 --> 00:44:38,510
really want to discuss it too much the

1101
00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:40,550
Lakeland Springfield was involved in

1102
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:41,950
some of this research would be as well

1103
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:43,910
investigation he got the interview and

1104
00:44:48,670 --> 00:44:45,920
then I talked to him as well and later

1105
00:44:50,290 --> 00:44:48,680
he did confirm that he took the first

1106
00:44:52,930 --> 00:44:50,300
load of brixon to wright-patterson they

1107
00:44:55,690 --> 00:44:52,940
were escorted in and he saw the military

1108
00:44:58,060 --> 00:44:55,700
flatbed trailer with the tarp dog tech

1109
00:45:00,610 --> 00:44:58,070
outside this building the day before the

1110
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,620
next day when he and Myron went that was

1111
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:02,720
not there anymore so they were told just

1112
00:45:07,210 --> 00:45:05,450
do your job unload these pallets of

1113
00:45:10,270 --> 00:45:07,220
brick this do what you're supposed to be

1114
00:45:12,190 --> 00:45:10,280
doing but as the day went on Myron got

1115
00:45:14,140 --> 00:45:12,200
curious because you would seen these men

1116
00:45:16,510 --> 00:45:14,150
in white coveralls but some type

1117
00:45:18,430 --> 00:45:16,520
protective gear and sidearms and they

1118
00:45:20,740 --> 00:45:18,440
are periodically changing I believe what

1119
00:45:22,750 --> 00:45:20,750
their gloves and some of our outer

1120
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:22,760
clothing as I recall it was wondering

1121
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:24,410
what was going on inside this warehouse

1122
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:26,210
building so when he didn't see anybody

1123
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:28,250
around here an over into the entrance

1124
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:31,130
and he saw up on scaffoldings he saw

1125
00:45:35,620 --> 00:45:34,250
this large metallic acorn-shaped object

1126
00:45:37,090 --> 00:45:35,630
described it's very much like the other

1127
00:45:39,130 --> 00:45:37,100
witness he described seeing the

1128
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:39,140
hieroglyphic markings there these guys

1129
00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:41,450
are up on ladders and apparently you're

1130
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:43,070
trying to get inside this thing so

1131
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:44,810
apparently at one point my refer to ask

1132
00:45:48,070 --> 00:45:45,650
you some question

1133
00:45:49,930 --> 00:45:48,080
it's that one fella misophonia clearance

1134
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:49,940
and they soon realized he didn't admire

1135
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:52,400
was threatened and pretty much told it

1136
00:45:55,870 --> 00:45:54,170
you never just talk about what you see

1137
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:55,880
or would throw you in jail and throw

1138
00:45:59,440 --> 00:45:57,890
away the keys but in 20 years this all

1139
00:46:00,400 --> 00:45:59,450
be public knowledge which of course

1140
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:00,410
never happened

1141
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:04,250
49 years ago the Kecksburg UFO occurs

1142
00:46:09,580 --> 00:46:06,890
looking at it in 2014

1143
00:46:12,220 --> 00:46:09,590
do we know anything new in recent years

1144
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:12,230
it maybe hasn't been disclosed before or

1145
00:46:17,380 --> 00:46:15,170
will correct maybe a few assumptions in

1146
00:46:19,870 --> 00:46:17,390
the part of people about the case that

1147
00:46:23,350 --> 00:46:19,880
are wrong well you know in recent years

1148
00:46:24,850 --> 00:46:23,360
I found a few other witnesses who I've

1149
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:24,860
talked to people who are on the scene

1150
00:46:29,110 --> 00:46:26,960
that night people were basically among

1151
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:29,120
the crowds that saw the military people

1152
00:46:33,130 --> 00:46:31,310
so unfortunately nothing nothing

1153
00:46:35,740 --> 00:46:33,140
earth-shattering nothing that's gonna

1154
00:46:37,330 --> 00:46:35,750
unfortunately close the case that we

1155
00:46:39,460 --> 00:46:37,340
would like to close the case that almost

1156
00:46:41,890 --> 00:46:39,470
50 years there are many many different

1157
00:46:43,630 --> 00:46:41,900
events you know we could talk about on

1158
00:46:45,550 --> 00:46:43,640
this case or just so interesting a lot

1159
00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:45,560
of personal interactions with people

1160
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:47,150
what happened out there with the

1161
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:49,610
military what we have found in more

1162
00:46:53,950 --> 00:46:51,770
recent years a couple things as one we

1163
00:46:55,690 --> 00:46:53,960
now know that there were two military

1164
00:46:58,540 --> 00:46:55,700
flatted tractor-trailer trucks at the

1165
00:46:59,980 --> 00:46:58,550
scene one went out earlier and the

1166
00:47:02,320 --> 00:46:59,990
second one went out around one o'clock

1167
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:02,330
in the morning with the object on it and

1168
00:47:08,260 --> 00:47:05,930
in the summer of 1990 before we did

1169
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:08,270
eunsol mystery show as when this man

1170
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:11,030
made contact with me and I was able to

1171
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:12,770
check out his background and he told me

1172
00:47:16,270 --> 00:47:13,850
he was a part of the Air Force security

1173
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:16,280
team our Air Force security police they

1174
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:18,890
guarded the object at lock born Air

1175
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:21,440
Force Base near Columbus Ohio when it

1176
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:22,850
came into the base during the early

1177
00:47:26,650 --> 00:47:24,650
morning hours of December the 10th and

1178
00:47:29,170 --> 00:47:26,660
what he told us was that they backed the

1179
00:47:30,670 --> 00:47:29,180
flatbed with the tarp object into a

1180
00:47:33,850 --> 00:47:30,680
hangar they set up the security

1181
00:47:35,950 --> 00:47:33,860
perimeter and the security was extremely

1182
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:35,960
tight he said they were given a shape to

1183
00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:37,850
kill order Danny buddy approached that

1184
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:39,800
hangar without the proper authority now

1185
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:41,690
he also told me he for whatever reason

1186
00:47:45,070 --> 00:47:43,490
didn't stay on the team much longer that

1187
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:45,080
night he had something else he was

1188
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:47,450
assigned to do but he heard that the

1189
00:47:50,770 --> 00:47:49,490
flatbed didn't stay at the base that

1190
00:47:53,350 --> 00:47:50,780
long he continued on to wright-patterson

1191
00:47:55,390 --> 00:47:53,360
Air Force Base and that's later where

1192
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:55,400
other people independently contacted me

1193
00:47:59,020 --> 00:47:57,050
and told me exactly what building it

1194
00:47:59,530 --> 00:47:59,030
went to now of course we have no idea

1195
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,540
where my

1196
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:01,520
today we have a few questions from our

1197
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:03,650
listeners about Kecksburg before we

1198
00:48:06,670 --> 00:48:05,210
leave that subject let's start with them

1199
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:06,680
we may have to continue through our next

1200
00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:09,290
segment let's go on so this from burnt

1201
00:48:13,930 --> 00:48:12,020
State now Bert state is a very loyal

1202
00:48:15,310 --> 00:48:13,940
listener to the show has been around in

1203
00:48:19,060 --> 00:48:15,320
our forms for a little over two years

1204
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:19,070
posted nearly 2,000 messages so he's

1205
00:48:23,620 --> 00:48:21,770
very energetic about it so first in

1206
00:48:25,570 --> 00:48:23,630
looking through your independent

1207
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:25,580
documentary and in reading through the

1208
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:28,210
literature there are a bit of

1209
00:48:33,340 --> 00:48:30,890
discrepancies regarding the size of what

1210
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:33,350
crashed in the woods one reporter in

1211
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:35,930
your documentary claimed that what was

1212
00:48:41,770 --> 00:48:38,720
on the flatbed truck was about the size

1213
00:48:44,380 --> 00:48:41,780
of two suitcases only others claimed it

1214
00:48:46,510 --> 00:48:44,390
was the size of a VW Beetle so how big

1215
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:46,520
was it right and that's exactly true

1216
00:48:51,220 --> 00:48:49,010
because as I just mentioned we are aware

1217
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:51,230
after a number of years not that there

1218
00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:53,930
were two flat tractor trailers the one

1219
00:49:00,730 --> 00:48:56,510
that went out earlier had what appeared

1220
00:49:02,590 --> 00:49:00,740
to be a lower longer flatter whatever it

1221
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:02,600
was was covered by the tarp but the

1222
00:49:06,010 --> 00:49:04,310
object that went out later that night

1223
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:06,020
around one o'clock in the morning had

1224
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:07,970
the acorn shaped object on it and went

1225
00:49:13,780 --> 00:49:10,970
to lock point Air Force Base okay second

1226
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:13,790
question do you have any confirmation of

1227
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:14,930
unique bricks

1228
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:17,930
or ceramic tiles actually being shipped

1229
00:49:24,010 --> 00:49:20,330
to wright-patterson to be used to entomb

1230
00:49:26,170 --> 00:49:24,020
the object I had very specific details

1231
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,180
and information and a lot of information

1232
00:49:30,370 --> 00:49:28,160
the people involved did not want their

1233
00:49:32,770 --> 00:49:30,380
company name involved but we had a lot

1234
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:32,780
of specific information and details at

1235
00:49:36,910 --> 00:49:34,850
that time do I have an order or anything

1236
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:36,920
the show unfortunately we do not final

1237
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:39,650
question did the witness romansky ever

1238
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:42,650
draw the symbols he saw in the object so

1239
00:49:47,950 --> 00:49:44,690
that it could be verified that this was

1240
00:49:49,150 --> 00:49:47,960
not a recognizable human language this

1241
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:49,160
gets back to our discussion about

1242
00:49:54,820 --> 00:49:52,010
hieroglyphics okay we didn't find him

1243
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:54,830
until 1987 it was just by sheer luck

1244
00:49:59,620 --> 00:49:58,010
that I had a very large but UFOs display

1245
00:50:01,810 --> 00:49:59,630
one of the local malls which thousands

1246
00:50:04,030 --> 00:50:01,820
of people came out to and it was August

1247
00:50:06,430 --> 00:50:04,040
of 87 that we just had a small little

1248
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:06,440
display on Kecksburg and he and the

1249
00:50:09,970 --> 00:50:08,690
family happened to be walking by and he

1250
00:50:11,770 --> 00:50:09,980
was listening to one of my associates

1251
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:11,780
talking to a person about the case and

1252
00:50:15,130 --> 00:50:13,250
he said scuse me he

1253
00:50:16,750 --> 00:50:15,140
but that incident ex Berg and they said

1254
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:16,760
yet he said well I was on the search

1255
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:19,010
team that found the object right away he

1256
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:20,690
said he wanted to talk to us he didn't

1257
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,640
want get publicly involved you on the

1258
00:50:27,849 --> 00:50:24,880
family involved but that led to

1259
00:50:30,430 --> 00:50:27,859
multitudes of interviews later us

1260
00:50:32,410 --> 00:50:30,440
meeting him out in the general area I

1261
00:50:34,510 --> 00:50:32,420
was telling him nothing about what we

1262
00:50:36,910 --> 00:50:34,520
knew and him taking us to a particular

1263
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:36,920
location in the woods from certain

1264
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:39,200
landmarks remember from memory and then

1265
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:41,690
a year later that same exact location be

1266
00:50:46,270 --> 00:50:43,849
confirmed by second witness who we got a

1267
00:50:48,609 --> 00:50:46,280
lead on which is globally Bush and later

1268
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:48,619
a third person a young boy who lived

1269
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:50,510
nearby it was down the woods the next

1270
00:50:55,540 --> 00:50:52,490
day he independently took his the same

1271
00:50:58,270 --> 00:50:55,550
location as well anyhow Jim was two

1272
00:51:00,670 --> 00:50:58,280
years later that he's trying to recall

1273
00:51:03,310 --> 00:51:00,680
some of the details of those symbols and

1274
00:51:05,770 --> 00:51:03,320
if you go to my website and if you click

1275
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:05,780
on under Kecksburg Kecksburg incident

1276
00:51:11,140 --> 00:51:09,170
you will see a depiction there of the

1277
00:51:13,930 --> 00:51:11,150
object and you scroll down a little and

1278
00:51:16,359 --> 00:51:13,940
you'll see those symbols on there this

1279
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:16,369
was done by artist Dave st. Yee over in

1280
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:18,650
the United Kingdom those symbols are the

1281
00:51:23,530 --> 00:51:21,680
best that Jim romansky could remember to

1282
00:51:25,690 --> 00:51:23,540
his memory so that's as close as we have

1283
00:51:27,310 --> 00:51:25,700
as to what they may look like and

1284
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:27,320
they're not in any specific order

1285
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:28,880
because we just can't be sure after so

1286
00:51:32,050 --> 00:51:29,930
many years all right

1287
00:51:39,810 --> 00:51:32,060
more to come with Stan Gordon you're in

1288
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:39,820
the para cast alive

1289
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:42,640
the network for the independent-minded

1290
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:47,310
the genesis communications network see

1291
00:51:51,330 --> 00:51:49,690
the good people ever want to call an

1292
00:51:53,220 --> 00:51:51,340
attorney just to find out if they're

1293
00:51:54,270 --> 00:51:53,230
right or wrong but every time you think

1294
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:54,280
about calling an attorney

1295
00:51:58,830 --> 00:51:55,930
what are you forced to think about first

1296
00:52:00,450 --> 00:51:58,840
money if you could call as often as you

1297
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:00,460
wanted and talk as long as you need

1298
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:03,280
without a bill would you call worry less

1299
00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:05,650
and live more with LS protection calm

1300
00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:08,350
that's LS protection calm or call eight

1301
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:11,230
five five three four zero save that's a

1302
00:52:16,170 --> 00:52:13,690
five five three four zero seven two

1303
00:52:16,620 --> 00:52:16,180
eight three results will vary from case

1304
00:52:18,690 --> 00:52:16,630
to case

1305
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:18,700
we the people grow cotton wheat fabric

1306
00:52:22,410 --> 00:52:20,800
engraving can bed strips and fibers to

1307
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:22,420
protect from counterfeit and carding to

1308
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:24,160
a private bank having it led back at

1309
00:52:26,430 --> 00:52:24,610
interest

1310
00:52:28,260 --> 00:52:26,440
forcing taxes to service debt this

1311
00:52:29,730 --> 00:52:28,270
capitalism was Jefferson correct when

1312
00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:29,740
stating a central bank issuing the

1313
00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:31,390
public currency is a greater menace to

1314
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:32,500
the liberties of the people than a

1315
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:34,240
standing army hi Ted I understand I'm

1316
00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:35,680
placing a free silver dollar in a book

1317
00:52:41,010 --> 00:52:37,510
that explains our monetary system call

1318
00:52:44,220 --> 00:52:41,020
for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time

1319
00:52:50,430 --> 00:52:44,230
to understand the system call 866 to 237

1320
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:50,440
that's 800 686 to 237 these days so many

1321
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:52,810
suffer from heartburn stomach ulcers and

1322
00:52:56,940 --> 00:52:55,090
acid reflux and most never realize it is

1323
00:52:59,010 --> 00:52:56,950
the high acidity within the body that

1324
00:53:01,920 --> 00:52:59,020
causes their discomfort while selective

1325
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:01,930
diet choices can help Alka vision plasma

1326
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:04,960
pH drops can really make a change a few

1327
00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:06,850
drops out of the water can optimize your

1328
00:53:10,860 --> 00:53:08,830
body's pH level ridding you of harmful

1329
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:10,870
waste and acid promoting health and

1330
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:13,570
restoring vibrance and energy healthy pH

1331
00:53:17,010 --> 00:53:15,370
levels make all the difference

1332
00:53:19,890 --> 00:53:17,020
high acidity can also cause depression

1333
00:53:22,740 --> 00:53:19,900
insomnia and irritability Alka vision

1334
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:22,750
plasma pH drops bring you vital balance

1335
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:24,210
that can be truly life-changing

1336
00:53:28,620 --> 00:53:26,410
alkalizing boosts immune response

1337
00:53:31,050 --> 00:53:28,630
reduces headaches and cramping and even

1338
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:31,060
helps prevent bone loss this is simple

1339
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:33,040
science that helps your body do what's

1340
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:36,190
natural order your alkaviva drops for

1341
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:39,760
just 29.95 at Alka vision calm ALK a

1342
00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:42,400
vision calm or call eight hundred five

1343
00:53:47,250 --> 00:53:44,950
one eight seventy six fifteen alkalize

1344
00:53:50,490 --> 00:53:47,260
your body supercharge your health at

1345
00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:50,500
Alka vision calm

1346
00:54:03,900 --> 00:53:59,590
welcome back to the para cast the gold

1347
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:03,910
standard of paranormal radio and now

1348
00:54:15,220 --> 00:54:12,800
here's Jane Steinberg Stan Gordon on the

1349
00:54:17,380 --> 00:54:15,230
parrot casts for the first four segments

1350
00:54:20,460 --> 00:54:17,390
of the show we're recovering once again

1351
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:20,470
the Kecksburg UFO incident December 9th

1352
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:23,810
1965 when I was very very young and

1353
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,960
foolish now I'm old and foolish or old

1354
00:54:31,090 --> 00:54:28,640
and idiotic depending on your point of

1355
00:54:32,770 --> 00:54:31,100
view so there you go this may be one of

1356
00:54:34,930 --> 00:54:32,780
those things like Roswell where we never

1357
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:34,940
get an answer is that possible we may

1358
00:54:38,380 --> 00:54:36,950
never have the answer to I guess there

1359
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:38,390
is so much we could talk for days about

1360
00:54:42,070 --> 00:54:40,160
this case and there's there are so many

1361
00:54:44,740 --> 00:54:42,080
little details that people really are

1362
00:54:46,930 --> 00:54:44,750
not aware of just at the great interest

1363
00:54:49,060 --> 00:54:46,940
case it's a great mystery and it's

1364
00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:49,070
something that so many witnesses which

1365
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:50,390
they had closure on I mean unfortunately

1366
00:54:55,450 --> 00:54:53,090
many key witnesses have passed away the

1367
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:55,460
last textbook fireman who was actively

1368
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:56,720
involved in some of the activities

1369
00:55:00,370 --> 00:54:58,130
involved that night passed away last

1370
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:00,380
year Robert vintner but there are still

1371
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:02,570
many many people out in that area who

1372
00:55:05,230 --> 00:55:04,400
were children or teenagers at the time

1373
00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:05,240
we're still living

1374
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:07,250
what can't to be aware of is well a

1375
00:55:11,710 --> 00:55:09,440
number of people gone public on this

1376
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:11,720
case the high percentage of people I've

1377
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:14,000
interviewed for various reasons still

1378
00:55:17,830 --> 00:55:16,010
have never gone public because I get a

1379
00:55:20,380 --> 00:55:17,840
lot of those people when they grew up

1380
00:55:23,290 --> 00:55:20,390
they turn out to be police officers and

1381
00:55:25,210 --> 00:55:23,300
educators and lawyers and very

1382
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:25,220
respectable people and many of those

1383
00:55:29,140 --> 00:55:27,770
people even today they still just don't

1384
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:29,150
want to get caught up in the controversy

1385
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:31,730
or ridicule what was so fascinating is

1386
00:55:35,350 --> 00:55:33,920
that after so many years so many

1387
00:55:37,210 --> 00:55:35,360
different people we didn't know each

1388
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:37,220
other will give me those little details

1389
00:55:40,810 --> 00:55:39,200
that they wouldn't have known if they

1390
00:55:42,910 --> 00:55:40,820
were on the scene and many of them

1391
00:55:44,410 --> 00:55:42,920
confirmed other people's accounts now of

1392
00:55:46,810 --> 00:55:44,420
course when you look at people who

1393
00:55:48,910 --> 00:55:46,820
confirm other people's reports do you

1394
00:55:51,460 --> 00:55:48,920
consider the possibility that they've

1395
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:51,470
been reading up on the case and maybe

1396
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:54,050
they've altered their testimony to fit

1397
00:55:58,330 --> 00:55:55,910
with what they read or it's influenced

1398
00:56:00,610 --> 00:55:58,340
them somehow well first of all a lot of

1399
00:56:03,820 --> 00:56:00,620
these witnesses were found back in the

1400
00:56:05,740 --> 00:56:03,830
80's 90's long before a lot of it a lot

1401
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:05,750
of the details were published there was

1402
00:56:08,410 --> 00:56:07,250
a lot of detail and there's still some

1403
00:56:10,359 --> 00:56:08,420
details I haven't published

1404
00:56:13,299 --> 00:56:10,369
so people can confirm the information

1405
00:56:15,460 --> 00:56:13,309
can you tell us now anything that has

1406
00:56:16,839 --> 00:56:15,470
not been published about this case that

1407
00:56:18,940 --> 00:56:16,849
maybe our listeners would like to know

1408
00:56:21,489 --> 00:56:18,950
about okay well there's still a number

1409
00:56:23,289 --> 00:56:21,499
of things that I'm still holding on to

1410
00:56:25,329 --> 00:56:23,299
because I'm hoping to still to

1411
00:56:27,759 --> 00:56:25,339
confirmation on it one thing I have

1412
00:56:29,739 --> 00:56:27,769
found in more recent years that we

1413
00:56:31,390 --> 00:56:29,749
didn't know until I began to

1414
00:56:32,799 --> 00:56:31,400
periodically get a witness from

1415
00:56:35,410 --> 00:56:32,809
different areas and they would bring

1416
00:56:37,509 --> 00:56:35,420
this up but after a number of years now

1417
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:37,519
we've got a number of people stretch

1418
00:56:43,269 --> 00:56:40,910
from member outside of Ohio into not too

1419
00:56:46,420 --> 00:56:43,279
far from Tex burg where people told me

1420
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:46,430
that they saw one if not military jets

1421
00:56:50,529 --> 00:56:48,650
that we're pursuing this object and

1422
00:56:52,509 --> 00:56:50,539
that's something I don't have a lot of

1423
00:56:54,940 --> 00:56:52,519
people want but there's a number of

1424
00:56:58,029 --> 00:56:54,950
independent people who have been along a

1425
00:56:59,890 --> 00:56:58,039
certain path that have described this in

1426
00:57:01,749 --> 00:56:59,900
detail all right anything else you can

1427
00:57:03,849 --> 00:57:01,759
tell us that maybe we didn't know well

1428
00:57:06,999 --> 00:57:03,859
again there's some things I'm working on

1429
00:57:09,130 --> 00:57:07,009
and I'm really hopeful still that maybe

1430
00:57:11,470 --> 00:57:09,140
now coming up in the 49th and 50th year

1431
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:11,480
as we get to the festival now and we're

1432
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:14,450
parking lots of people and I'm hopeful

1433
00:57:18,339 --> 00:57:15,920
that there's some other people out there

1434
00:57:20,349 --> 00:57:18,349
that have information out there and

1435
00:57:22,539 --> 00:57:20,359
hopefully they'll come and share it

1436
00:57:23,799 --> 00:57:22,549
because certain details out there are

1437
00:57:25,479 --> 00:57:23,809
certain information that might be out

1438
00:57:27,309 --> 00:57:25,489
there somewhere might help to close the

1439
00:57:29,470 --> 00:57:27,319
case you'll be one of the first to know

1440
00:57:31,269 --> 00:57:29,480
if we have a big breakthrough anyone out

1441
00:57:34,029 --> 00:57:31,279
there who's listening from Pennsylvania

1442
00:57:36,609 --> 00:57:34,039
who might have some information insights

1443
00:57:39,009 --> 00:57:36,619
into Kecksburg case where can they

1444
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:39,019
contact Stan Gordon well they can always

1445
00:57:44,319 --> 00:57:40,400
reach you through my website which is

1446
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:44,329
Stan Gordon dot info INF oh the email is

1447
00:57:51,609 --> 00:57:49,609
PA UFO at comcast.net and of course my

1448
00:57:53,589 --> 00:57:51,619
phone that I've had open since the for

1449
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:53,599
the public people call me at my home

1450
00:58:00,039 --> 00:57:57,200
number two the 1969 is area code seventy

1451
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:00,049
two four eight three eight seven seven

1452
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:02,089
six eight that's the number we call him

1453
00:58:07,479 --> 00:58:04,730
at correct okay so this is a number

1454
00:58:08,650 --> 00:58:07,489
available to anybody so we know that

1455
00:58:10,539 --> 00:58:08,660
there aren't going to be any

1456
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:10,549
telemarketing calls if you have

1457
00:58:15,549 --> 00:58:13,369
something legitimate to talk about Stan

1458
00:58:17,799 --> 00:58:15,559
Gordon we invite you to call them up and

1459
00:58:21,279 --> 00:58:17,809
tell them what you've got and he'll

1460
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:21,289
follow up now the Kecksburg case like a

1461
00:58:24,819 --> 00:58:22,130
few of the other

1462
00:58:27,819 --> 00:58:24,829
classic cases in the UFO field seem to

1463
00:58:30,130 --> 00:58:27,829
stand by themselves it's not that they

1464
00:58:31,779 --> 00:58:30,140
happen everywhere but in all the years

1465
00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:31,789
you've covered the subject since you

1466
00:58:35,410 --> 00:58:32,750
were 10 years old

1467
00:58:38,140 --> 00:58:35,420
is there anything remotely like the

1468
00:58:40,690 --> 00:58:38,150
Kecksburg UFO that looks like it that

1469
00:58:42,249 --> 00:58:40,700
had a similar outcome what well I

1470
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:42,259
started to go out in the field to

1471
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,089
investigate all kind of phenomenon after

1472
00:58:47,319 --> 00:58:45,920
Kecksburg I began to do field

1473
00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:47,329
investigations I've been out in the

1474
00:58:52,450 --> 00:58:49,910
field since the end of 1965 doing

1475
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:52,460
investigations of which multitudes into

1476
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:54,319
the thousands of cases there's no doubt

1477
00:58:58,539 --> 00:58:56,480
and reports came in here almost every

1478
00:59:01,630 --> 00:58:58,549
day on these occurrence or past reports

1479
00:59:03,309 --> 00:59:01,640
so the two main areas even I get calls

1480
00:59:06,089 --> 00:59:03,319
on all kind of phenomena in my two main

1481
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:06,099
areas are the skating UFO cases and

1482
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:07,250
cryptozoology

1483
00:59:11,230 --> 00:59:08,930
so I've interviewed hundreds of Bigfoot

1484
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:11,240
witnesses I've interviewed many people

1485
00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:12,890
have seen all kind of strange entities

1486
00:59:16,839 --> 00:59:14,809
and creatures here in Pennsylvania from

1487
00:59:18,490 --> 00:59:16,849
reports of giant birds such as

1488
00:59:20,170 --> 00:59:18,500
Thunderbirds including or why we just

1489
00:59:22,779 --> 00:59:20,180
had this past Monday a reporter came in

1490
00:59:24,460 --> 00:59:22,789
Bigfoot sightings Thunderbirds black

1491
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:24,470
panther sighting is a whole array of

1492
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:27,170
other strange entities people reports

1493
00:59:31,509 --> 00:59:29,119
and so I'm very very busy and there have

1494
00:59:33,759 --> 00:59:31,519
been multitudes it's just really

1495
00:59:35,859 --> 00:59:33,769
detailed the UFO cases I've looked into

1496
00:59:38,049 --> 00:59:35,869
you know first of all as I mentioned

1497
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:38,059
here gene many times before one thing I

1498
00:59:42,130 --> 00:59:40,250
found years ago when I started doing

1499
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:42,140
investigations out in the field it's the

1500
00:59:46,359 --> 00:59:44,720
same today the reports come in and many

1501
00:59:48,490 --> 00:59:46,369
of them initially sound strange or

1502
00:59:50,499 --> 00:59:48,500
unusual but when you follow up on the

1503
00:59:52,539 --> 00:59:50,509
reports and you investigate them the

1504
00:59:54,190 --> 00:59:52,549
higher percentage of times I'm able to

1505
00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:54,200
determine these things are a natural or

1506
00:59:58,059 --> 00:59:56,240
man-made origin there's many types of

1507
00:59:59,380 --> 00:59:58,069
misidentification which we all know and

1508
01:00:01,390 --> 00:59:59,390
of course now we're done with a lot of

1509
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:01,400
Chinese lantern reports and now we're

1510
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:04,880
doing remote control LED helicopters and

1511
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:06,529
aircraft and we'll be dealing with

1512
01:00:10,420 --> 01:00:08,569
little drones so a lot of things that

1513
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:10,430
people are going to report turn out to

1514
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:12,559
be misidentifications but then again

1515
01:00:18,849 --> 01:00:15,890
year after year reports are coming in a

1516
01:00:21,009 --> 01:00:18,859
very detailed incidence but with UFOs

1517
01:00:23,799 --> 01:00:21,019
and encrypt cryptids that you cannot

1518
01:00:25,329 --> 01:00:23,809
easily dismiss the expert case is one of

1519
01:00:28,210 --> 01:00:25,339
these case where you have multiple

1520
01:00:30,099 --> 01:00:28,220
witnesses they saw something what it was

1521
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:30,109
is still yet to be determined so it's

1522
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:32,089
still an open case but it's still unique

1523
01:00:34,730 --> 01:00:34,250
in the sense of the type of object and

1524
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,740
everything

1525
01:00:37,940 --> 01:00:36,240
you know what was so important out there

1526
01:00:40,220 --> 01:00:37,950
that the military responded the way they

1527
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:40,230
did the military just does not come out

1528
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:42,570
with armed personnel and equipment for

1529
01:00:46,190 --> 01:00:44,610
example just look for a meteorite there

1530
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:46,200
was something out there that they wanted

1531
01:00:49,490 --> 01:00:47,490
to get their hands on that they

1532
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:49,500
responded so quickly and there are so

1533
01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:51,510
many witnesses including reporters that

1534
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:53,910
saw them there so there was no doubt

1535
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:55,530
whatsoever that they were there yes but

1536
01:00:59,480 --> 01:00:57,690
again the fact that they reacted so

1537
01:01:01,040 --> 01:00:59,490
quickly either they were tracking it or

1538
01:01:03,010 --> 01:01:01,050
maybe it was some sort of testing

1539
01:01:05,630 --> 01:01:03,020
aircraft okay well I can tell you

1540
01:01:07,460 --> 01:01:05,640
officially they were never tracking it

1541
01:01:09,859 --> 01:01:07,470
but over the years I had a number of

1542
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:09,869
different sources who told me that they

1543
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:11,850
have no doubt that this thing was being

1544
01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:13,890
tracked over quite a long distance that

1545
01:01:17,930 --> 01:01:15,510
they probably had a pretty good idea of

1546
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:17,940
what general area it might be coming

1547
01:01:21,530 --> 01:01:19,650
down so they had the teams already

1548
01:01:22,250 --> 01:01:21,540
activated it started to move in the

1549
01:01:24,109 --> 01:01:22,260
general area

1550
01:01:25,609 --> 01:01:24,119
the interesting thing is I think I'm

1551
01:01:27,290 --> 01:01:25,619
interested early er you know the

1552
01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:27,300
military had been riding around that

1553
01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:29,640
area for days they never would have been

1554
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:30,960
able to see where it came down let's

1555
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:32,250
somebody took him down to the ravine

1556
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:34,110
you said they were riding around there

1557
01:01:38,180 --> 01:01:36,930
for days is this an exciting no I said

1558
01:01:39,740 --> 01:01:38,190
they could have been riding around there

1559
01:01:41,450 --> 01:01:39,750
for days and not been able to see it

1560
01:01:43,460 --> 01:01:41,460
because this thing was done in the

1561
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:43,470
middle this ravine and you could not see

1562
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:44,970
it from any of the roadways around the

1563
01:01:49,820 --> 01:01:47,609
area all right Tex burg you mentioned

1564
01:01:52,340 --> 01:01:49,830
quickly a recent Thunderbird sighting

1565
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:52,350
let's move from UFOs to Thunderbirds

1566
01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:54,450
before we ask you about the latest case

1567
01:01:59,480 --> 01:01:56,310
let's go back to give our listeners a

1568
01:02:01,220 --> 01:01:59,490
sense of what Thunderbirds are okay well

1569
01:02:03,740 --> 01:02:01,230
Thunderbird reports go back in

1570
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:03,750
Pennsylvania to believe about the late

1571
01:02:07,609 --> 01:02:06,330
1800s there was a history of reports up

1572
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:07,619
in the black forest region of

1573
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:09,450
Pennsylvania but other reports from

1574
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:11,250
around the state as well and these

1575
01:02:17,780 --> 01:02:14,310
reports generally are a very generally

1576
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:17,790
large dark brown or black bird which has

1577
01:02:23,810 --> 01:02:21,450
a usually wide wings band and estimates

1578
01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:23,820
would be anywhere from 10 to 20 feet and

1579
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:26,400
I and and with but some of the reports

1580
01:02:30,530 --> 01:02:28,410
are that and while we compile them under

1581
01:02:32,359 --> 01:02:30,540
Thunderbird reports or giant bird

1582
01:02:34,670 --> 01:02:32,369
reports there are similarities but

1583
01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:34,680
differences some of the reports we have

1584
01:02:39,410 --> 01:02:36,660
people describe things something it

1585
01:02:42,109 --> 01:02:39,420
looks more like a giant leathery bat a

1586
01:02:44,540 --> 01:02:42,119
huge leathery back in other cases people

1587
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:44,550
reluctantly and The Reluctant report all

1588
01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:46,770
these sightings anyhow but some of them

1589
01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:48,480
have said what they saw

1590
01:02:52,550 --> 01:02:50,220
they were certain with something

1591
01:02:53,330 --> 01:02:52,560
prehistoric like a pterodactyl at

1592
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:53,340
airport

1593
01:02:57,950 --> 01:02:55,440
a prehistoric bird and then there have

1594
01:02:59,780 --> 01:02:57,960
been some odd reports of something and

1595
01:03:02,030 --> 01:02:59,790
some people have told investigators that

1596
01:03:04,220 --> 01:03:02,040
look something more like a gargoyle so

1597
01:03:06,020 --> 01:03:04,230
there's a very very weird reports out

1598
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:06,030
there and again you know some of these

1599
01:03:11,030 --> 01:03:08,609
cases it's just like with UFO cases it's

1600
01:03:13,490 --> 01:03:11,040
very difficult to judge the size the

1601
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:13,500
object and distance ones in the sky but

1602
01:03:18,500 --> 01:03:16,530
in the UFO and Thunderbird reports we

1603
01:03:21,260 --> 01:03:18,510
have some instances where they were very

1604
01:03:25,340 --> 01:03:21,270
close to the witness very close you know

1605
01:03:26,750 --> 01:03:25,350
in distance and I type on the ground so

1606
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:26,760
they were very they were in the

1607
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:28,650
situation where they got to get a pretty

1608
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:30,690
good idea of science and dimension

1609
01:03:35,630 --> 01:03:33,450
let's break here we'll be back with more

1610
01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:35,640
discussions about Thunderbirds and more

1611
01:03:41,180 --> 01:03:37,920
other strange creatures in Pennsylvania

1612
01:03:49,310 --> 01:03:41,190
Stan Gordon with Gene and Kris you're in

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researcher discussing Thunderbirds now

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01:08:22,769 --> 01:08:19,569
looking at these creatures any

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possibility it's some sort of creature

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that survived all these centuries for

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thousands billions of years that maybe

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just keeps itself away from the populace

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for the most part well again there's

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theories on this and you wonder where

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again as with so many these strange

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creatures reports I'm sure one getting

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to some very weird things we're done

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talking today you have to ask the

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question where do they come from where

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do they go

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and this is somebody shows up in so many

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of these cases not just the Thunderbirds

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but the Bigfoot reports to the Black

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Panthers and all these other weird

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creatures of people report and many

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01:09:01,260 --> 01:08:58,750
these are very very credible people that

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want no publicity many of them they're

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life-changing events for the witnesses

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and so again we just really don't know

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we don't have the answers so many the

1753
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misuse to deal with one case it really I

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found intriguing was a case that

1755
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actually occurred in nearby West

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Virginia back in the fall of 2007 and I

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think this was good because it I

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interviewed the witness a number of

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times he threw me and

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sketch of what he saw and this was again

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the for 2007 and daylight about eight

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o'clock in the morning and he's

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traveling down a two-lane road in West

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Virginia and he has to hit his brakes

1765
01:09:40,650 --> 01:09:38,080
really hard to avoid hitting this huge

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bird it's only a few yards in front of

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him and it has a dead animal its monthly

1768
01:09:48,510 --> 01:09:45,609
eating roadkill and he said that the

1769
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:48,520
this huge bird looked a startled to see

1770
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:52,089
him as he was to look at it but he said

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he was this gigantic he said it stood at

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least four feet tall because it had

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extended above the roofline of his

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01:10:01,410 --> 01:10:00,220
vehicle and he got a really good look at

1775
01:10:03,870 --> 01:10:01,420
this thing he said it was covered with

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01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:03,880
dark brown or black feathers the neckla

1777
01:10:09,090 --> 01:10:06,130
it was kind of long and crooked and the

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peat was dark and the eyes were dark in

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:11,739
color and the legs were covered with

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01:10:16,710 --> 01:10:14,770
feathers and he said what was most

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01:10:19,380 --> 01:10:16,720
startling was his just gigantic

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01:10:21,630 --> 01:10:19,390
monstrous wingspan and he said this

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01:10:24,210 --> 01:10:21,640
thing was trying to get off the ground

1784
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:24,220
and it would be hopping from one leg to

1785
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:26,080
the other flapping its wings and it's

1786
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:28,330
really awkward Matt meaner trying to get

1787
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:30,489
off the ground and he said what he's

1788
01:10:35,490 --> 01:10:33,280
watching was he's watching the wingtips

1789
01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:35,500
of this thing and they're there right at

1790
01:10:39,780 --> 01:10:37,510
the edge of both sides of the road and

1791
01:10:42,330 --> 01:10:39,790
when it's flapping its wings is it's

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01:10:44,460 --> 01:10:42,340
taking dust and dirt up into the air and

1793
01:10:47,250 --> 01:10:44,470
the thing finally takes off over the

1794
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,260
trees well he was so amazed by what he

1795
01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:49,360
saw him he came back the next day and

1796
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:51,340
measured the width of the roadway from

1797
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:53,410
end to end where he saw the wingtips it

1798
01:10:58,050 --> 01:10:54,640
was 21 feet across

1799
01:11:00,600 --> 01:10:58,060
ooh Big Bird big bird and actually he

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01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:00,610
spent some time going to the library

1801
01:11:04,830 --> 01:11:02,410
looking for all kinds of bird

1802
01:11:07,260 --> 01:11:04,840
information and he said that closely he

1803
01:11:08,850 --> 01:11:07,270
could find was a terrorist Warren which

1804
01:11:10,500 --> 01:11:08,860
of course is an extinct bird he said

1805
01:11:12,150 --> 01:11:10,510
there was a closest thing to what he

1806
01:11:15,150 --> 01:11:12,160
could find so that's very interesting

1807
01:11:18,030 --> 01:11:15,160
this sighting we had this past Monday

1808
01:11:19,890 --> 01:11:18,040
this was up in Indiana County and what's

1809
01:11:23,070 --> 01:11:19,900
interesting about Indiana County is is

1810
01:11:25,530 --> 01:11:23,080
this Indiana County is one of the three

1811
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counties of southwest Pennsylvania that

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borders along the Chestnut Ridge the

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Chestnut Ridge is a mountain range that

1814
01:11:35,550 --> 01:11:32,080
stretches from Preston County West

1815
01:11:36,919 --> 01:11:35,560
Virginia to into Westmoreland Fayette

1816
01:11:39,949 --> 01:11:36,929
Indiana County

1817
01:11:42,969 --> 01:11:39,959
it is probably one of the the hardest

1818
01:11:46,279 --> 01:11:42,979
areas in the country year after year for

1819
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:46,289
phenomena from Bigfoot sightings to UFO

1820
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:48,719
reports the Thunderbird sightings other

1821
01:11:53,629 --> 01:11:50,400
strains with Black Panther sightings

1822
01:11:55,580 --> 01:11:53,639
mountain lion weird phenomena this all

1823
01:11:58,279 --> 01:11:55,590
kind of strains up has historically been

1824
01:12:00,439 --> 01:11:58,289
seen all along that Ridge Westbourne fit

1825
01:12:03,049 --> 01:12:00,449
in Indiana County are very active year

1826
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:03,059
after year with all kind of reports and

1827
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:05,760
one thing I found many years ago when I

1828
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:07,530
was investigating Bigfoot sightings is

1829
01:12:13,370 --> 01:12:10,530
that a lot of both Bigfoot sightings and

1830
01:12:15,469 --> 01:12:13,380
UFO sightings and a lot of these cryptid

1831
01:12:19,459 --> 01:12:15,479
creature sightings occur in close

1832
01:12:21,949 --> 01:12:19,469
proximity to energy sources such as high

1833
01:12:24,859 --> 01:12:21,959
tension power transmission towers high

1834
01:12:28,699 --> 01:12:24,869
tension power lines power plant gas

1835
01:12:31,250 --> 01:12:28,709
wells gas line railroad tracks water

1836
01:12:33,529 --> 01:12:31,260
reservoirs things like that if something

1837
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:33,539
that shows up very very commonly and

1838
01:12:38,330 --> 01:12:36,090
this sighting Mundi occurred only about

1839
01:12:41,509 --> 01:12:38,340
a mile and a half from the Homer City

1840
01:12:43,969 --> 01:12:41,519
power station which has a lot of history

1841
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:43,979
of UFO events intact from the time they

1842
01:12:48,319 --> 01:12:46,170
built that big power station in the late

1843
01:12:50,359 --> 01:12:48,329
1960s when they were building it they

1844
01:12:52,660 --> 01:12:50,369
had a massive UFO wave growing up there

1845
01:12:55,009 --> 01:12:52,670
for weeks and that's right at the

1846
01:12:56,929 --> 01:12:55,019
University of Indiana Pennsylvania and

1847
01:12:59,600 --> 01:12:56,939
in fact when all the sightings were

1848
01:13:01,279 --> 01:12:59,610
going on a professor formed the UFO

1849
01:13:01,790 --> 01:13:01,289
group up there to investigate all those

1850
01:13:06,229 --> 01:13:01,800
sightings

1851
01:13:08,569 --> 01:13:06,239
last we had several reports of UFOs

1852
01:13:11,929 --> 01:13:08,579
hovering and operating in the vicinity

1853
01:13:14,270 --> 01:13:11,939
of the power station but this big bird

1854
01:13:16,910 --> 01:13:14,280
sighting was interesting because the

1855
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:16,920
witness has an extensive background of

1856
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:20,010
being a fisherman and a hunter and he in

1857
01:13:25,459 --> 01:13:23,610
fact is very much into bird-watching

1858
01:13:28,399 --> 01:13:25,469
he's been watching birds and studying

1859
01:13:30,469 --> 01:13:28,409
birds like 29 and 30 years and he said

1860
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:30,479
he's never seen anything like this

1861
01:13:36,109 --> 01:13:33,570
before he's very familiar with all the

1862
01:13:39,529 --> 01:13:36,119
big birds of Pennsylvania blue herons

1863
01:13:41,989 --> 01:13:39,539
and eagles and he's just stumped by what

1864
01:13:45,229 --> 01:13:41,999
he saw on Monday afternoon and daylight

1865
01:13:47,509 --> 01:13:45,239
and he said he spent two days is going

1866
01:13:50,029 --> 01:13:47,519
back through his bird books and studying

1867
01:13:50,780 --> 01:13:50,039
all those different reports to try to

1868
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:50,790
come up with on

1869
01:13:55,670 --> 01:13:53,250
before he reported it but he said he has

1870
01:13:58,970 --> 01:13:55,680
never seen like this before he was

1871
01:14:01,640 --> 01:13:58,980
riding down the road country road up in

1872
01:14:03,980 --> 01:14:01,650
Indiana County when he sees this but he

1873
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:03,990
thought was a small aircraft until it

1874
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:06,810
began to flap its wings he said is this

1875
01:14:11,450 --> 01:14:09,210
huge gigantic dark brown bird

1876
01:14:13,850 --> 01:14:11,460
it flew steadily with the wing beats one

1877
01:14:15,530 --> 01:14:13,860
by one beat every two seconds he said

1878
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:15,540
what stood out was this incredible

1879
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:17,490
wingspan and what appear to be a broad

1880
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:20,850
semicircular tail or rump section he

1881
01:14:24,830 --> 01:14:22,800
said it was similar and the the wing

1882
01:14:27,770 --> 01:14:24,840
beat motion was like to have an Egret or

1883
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:27,780
an errand or a crane however a much much

1884
01:14:32,450 --> 01:14:30,510
larger wingspan now he told me he said

1885
01:14:34,850 --> 01:14:32,460
he would estimate the wingspan to be at

1886
01:14:36,260 --> 01:14:34,860
least 12 feet or greater when I talked

1887
01:14:37,850 --> 01:14:36,270
to him when I first got further

1888
01:14:41,210 --> 01:14:37,860
information he said he felt was probably

1889
01:14:43,190 --> 01:14:41,220
12 to 14 foot in West he watch this

1890
01:14:44,750 --> 01:14:43,200
thing for I believe was about I'd have

1891
01:14:47,180 --> 01:14:44,760
to look it up again replacing about 20

1892
01:14:49,490 --> 01:14:47,190
seconds but it was long enough for him

1893
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:49,500
to realize this was unlike anything he

1894
01:14:52,990 --> 01:14:51,570
had ever seen in all the years he had

1895
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:53,000
been burn watching and he's just

1896
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:54,690
scratching his head trying to figure

1897
01:15:00,650 --> 01:14:57,090
this thing out so it's very interesting

1898
01:15:03,230 --> 01:15:00,660
what he saw back in blue was March of

1899
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:03,240
this year near Jeanette Pennsylvania

1900
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:05,970
which is closer to me a man that evening

1901
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:08,370
have to look up in the sky of the cloudy

1902
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:11,250
sky as I recall and he saw what he

1903
01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:13,110
thought was a paper cup so the people

1904
01:15:17,900 --> 01:15:15,120
around Jeannette we have small landing

1905
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:17,910
strips out there and we have a Arnold

1906
01:15:21,230 --> 01:15:19,440
Palmer Airport and we have Greater

1907
01:15:22,910 --> 01:15:21,240
Pittsburgh Allegheny County so people

1908
01:15:24,830 --> 01:15:22,920
are on this area they're really from

1909
01:15:26,270 --> 01:15:24,840
lawyer wood seeing piper cub

1910
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:26,280
single-engine aircraft coming in

1911
01:15:30,650 --> 01:15:28,320
regularly every day so they got a pretty

1912
01:15:33,020 --> 01:15:30,660
good dealer size and altitude so he

1913
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:33,030
looks up and he sees his dark what he

1914
01:15:36,460 --> 01:15:34,320
thought at first was like a Piper Cub

1915
01:15:39,650 --> 01:15:36,470
but he realized this thing is moving

1916
01:15:40,970 --> 01:15:39,660
faster than a Piper Cub smoother and all

1917
01:15:43,130 --> 01:15:40,980
of a sudden he notices that the wings

1918
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:43,140
are curved up at the tips and he will

1919
01:15:48,230 --> 01:15:46,650
realize this thing is a huge bird and he

1920
01:15:49,310 --> 01:15:48,240
runs aside to get his binoculars where

1921
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:49,320
he comes out it's going out in the

1922
01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:51,330
distance but he said he would estimate

1923
01:15:55,550 --> 01:15:53,820
haven't seen many Piper Cubs at altitude

1924
01:15:58,940 --> 01:15:55,560
how big this thing was it has to have a

1925
01:16:00,650 --> 01:15:58,950
say about 15 foot the lift so that's a

1926
01:16:03,020 --> 01:16:00,660
couple of thing has been reported up

1927
01:16:03,950 --> 01:16:03,030
pretty recently so anyone who thinks

1928
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:03,960
weird

1929
01:16:11,330 --> 01:16:08,640
that just happened a few days ago

1930
01:16:13,550 --> 01:16:11,340
clearly indicates it's still going on

1931
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:13,560
still lots of strange things happening

1932
01:16:17,210 --> 01:16:15,570
and I want to ask Stan Gordon in our

1933
01:16:20,180 --> 01:16:17,220
next segment is there something about

1934
01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:20,190
Pennsylvania that seems to attract an

1935
01:16:24,620 --> 01:16:23,070
unusual number of strange events or just

1936
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more people looking for them we'll find

1937
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off this week he's on special assignment

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prices you will never see again

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twenty nine thousand you can't afford to

1983
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rent with these prices

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for under sixty nine thousand dollars

1986
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with the economy improving and interest

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rate still at historic lows you can't

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years you've been hearing about the

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2044
01:21:09,159 --> 01:21:07,189
Gordon

2045
01:21:13,270 --> 01:21:09,169
Pennsylvania UFO and paranormal

2046
01:21:15,819 --> 01:21:13,280
investigator he looks into just UFOs and

2047
01:21:18,969 --> 01:21:15,829
Bigfoot and Thunderbirds and stuff like

2048
01:21:21,399 --> 01:21:18,979
that okay so when we look at your UFO

2049
01:21:23,469 --> 01:21:21,409
and paranormal research over the years

2050
01:21:26,290 --> 01:21:23,479
and we look at the case histories you

2051
01:21:29,679 --> 01:21:26,300
have at your site we see a lot of things

2052
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:29,689
going on year after year is there

2053
01:21:34,389 --> 01:21:31,489
something about these regions of

2054
01:21:37,179 --> 01:21:34,399
Pennsylvania that attracts more than the

2055
01:21:38,889 --> 01:21:37,189
unusual number of events well you know

2056
01:21:40,359 --> 01:21:38,899
my feeling is that these events are

2057
01:21:42,129 --> 01:21:40,369
probably going on all over the country

2058
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,139
in many parts of the world but people

2059
01:21:46,169 --> 01:21:44,239
don't know where to report it to or

2060
01:21:48,909 --> 01:21:46,179
they're hesitant to report it

2061
01:21:50,739 --> 01:21:48,919
historically here in Pennsylvania we

2062
01:21:52,509 --> 01:21:50,749
know that there's a lot of history going

2063
01:21:54,069 --> 01:21:52,519
back to the Native Americans there's

2064
01:21:56,529 --> 01:21:54,079
newspaper accounts going back to the

2065
01:21:58,179 --> 01:21:56,539
1800s they talk about these events

2066
01:22:00,399 --> 01:21:58,189
happening so these things have been

2067
01:22:02,250 --> 01:22:00,409
going on for a long time and also you

2068
01:22:05,770 --> 01:22:02,260
got to remember now that it was back in

2069
01:22:08,139 --> 01:22:05,780
1969 that I set up my hotline for the

2070
01:22:10,060 --> 01:22:08,149
public and I began to make contact as a

2071
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:10,070
as a young guy involved in these things

2072
01:22:14,139 --> 01:22:12,169
with the local police in a meet in news

2073
01:22:16,419 --> 01:22:14,149
media make them aware about this hotline

2074
01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:16,429
I was setting up as word got out about

2075
01:22:21,219 --> 01:22:18,110
it my phone was ringing off the hook

2076
01:22:23,290 --> 01:22:21,229
here and it was not just on UFOs it was

2077
01:22:25,929 --> 01:22:23,300
on people calling banners for haunted

2078
01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:25,939
houses to strange creatures to UFOs well

2079
01:22:30,609 --> 01:22:28,159
I was overwhelmed and I knew I couldn't

2080
01:22:32,529 --> 01:22:30,619
handle this on my own so my goal was to

2081
01:22:35,049 --> 01:22:32,539
set up a volunteer group of research

2082
01:22:36,609 --> 01:22:35,059
people who could respond quickly to

2083
01:22:39,370 --> 01:22:36,619
these type of reports

2084
01:22:41,169 --> 01:22:39,380
so that was what I did in 1970 I found

2085
01:22:43,930 --> 01:22:41,179
the first of three research group so

2086
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:43,940
we're active from from 1970 to end of

2087
01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:46,130
1993 and I've been working at

2088
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:48,110
independent research ever since but the

2089
01:22:52,780 --> 01:22:50,449
first group was the Westlaw County UFO

2090
01:22:54,850 --> 01:22:52,790
study group and started here east of

2091
01:22:57,339 --> 01:22:54,860
Pittsburgh we spread our activity in the

2092
01:22:59,260 --> 01:22:57,349
Pittsburgh area it was kind of unique in

2093
01:23:00,669 --> 01:22:59,270
that most of the people involved were

2094
01:23:02,620 --> 01:23:00,679
specialists of some type

2095
01:23:05,589 --> 01:23:02,630
we had scientists engineers technicians

2096
01:23:09,010 --> 01:23:05,599
we had scientists and research people

2097
01:23:10,859 --> 01:23:09,020
from in Pittsburgh from the Gulf

2098
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:10,869
research from Westinghouse from Alcoa

2099
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:13,730
from colleges and universities and

2100
01:23:18,070 --> 01:23:16,610
remember dr. Hynek years and years ago

2101
01:23:20,290 --> 01:23:18,080
he will talk about the invisible

2102
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:20,300
invisible college well that's what we

2103
01:23:24,459 --> 01:23:22,250
are dealing with because so many of

2104
01:23:26,050 --> 01:23:24,469
these very credible researchers work

2105
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:26,060
with me anonymously because their

2106
01:23:29,950 --> 01:23:28,010
positions and because of the ridicule

2107
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:29,960
with the subjects and many of them came

2108
01:23:35,229 --> 01:23:32,719
in skeptical to say the least

2109
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:35,239
but after spending years met him with

2110
01:23:38,649 --> 01:23:37,449
years with me out in the field doing

2111
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:38,659
investigation

2112
01:23:42,339 --> 01:23:40,489
seeing the patterns that came up

2113
01:23:44,109 --> 01:23:42,349
interviewing the witnesses seeing the

2114
01:23:46,780 --> 01:23:44,119
emotion seeing the evidence in the field

2115
01:23:48,580 --> 01:23:46,790
so many of them began to realize that

2116
01:23:51,850 --> 01:23:48,590
there were things out there we didn't

2117
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:51,860
have explanations for 1970 it starts in

2118
01:23:56,859 --> 01:23:55,010
the Pittsburgh area but by 1973 we took

2119
01:23:58,030 --> 01:23:56,869
over the state of Pennsylvania we're

2120
01:23:59,530 --> 01:23:58,040
getting reports done throughout the

2121
01:24:02,649 --> 01:23:59,540
state and we are covering it pretty well

2122
01:24:04,689 --> 01:24:02,659
and by that time to our kind of

2123
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:04,699
amazement we were getting referrals from

2124
01:24:08,919 --> 01:24:07,010
the state police from police agencies

2125
01:24:11,620 --> 01:24:08,929
from the news media across the state who

2126
01:24:14,379 --> 01:24:11,630
referring cases us to investigate so we

2127
01:24:18,220 --> 01:24:14,389
were very very busy and then we came

2128
01:24:19,839 --> 01:24:18,230
into 1973 when we had the biggest UFO

2129
01:24:22,359 --> 01:24:19,849
and Bigfoot outbreak in history that

2130
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:22,369
happened here in Pennsylvania and you

2131
01:24:26,620 --> 01:24:24,050
I'm sure you remember this in the fall

2132
01:24:29,740 --> 01:24:26,630
73 the United States had that massive

2133
01:24:31,780 --> 01:24:29,750
UFO outbreak that was making a lot of

2134
01:24:35,020 --> 01:24:31,790
the evening news and national newspapers

2135
01:24:36,850 --> 01:24:35,030
but in Pennsylvania that started January

2136
01:24:39,070 --> 01:24:36,860
1st and continued to the end of the year

2137
01:24:41,260 --> 01:24:39,080
we had hundreds and hundreds of UFO

2138
01:24:43,450 --> 01:24:41,270
cases going on and a lot of these were

2139
01:24:46,750 --> 01:24:43,460
not lights in the sky a lot of these

2140
01:24:49,060 --> 01:24:46,760
were large structured craft tasting cars

2141
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:49,070
hovering over roadways landing reports

2142
01:24:52,870 --> 01:24:50,239
just amazed

2143
01:24:54,850 --> 01:24:52,880
reports coming in so we were just busy

2144
01:24:58,180 --> 01:24:54,860
in fact just following up on all the UFO

2145
01:25:00,640 --> 01:24:58,190
cases but then the summer of 73 comes

2146
01:25:03,430 --> 01:25:00,650
around and that's when things got very

2147
01:25:05,290 --> 01:25:03,440
very amazing that's well as we began

2148
01:25:07,169 --> 01:25:05,300
with this massive outbreak of Bigfoot

2149
01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:07,179
activity here in southwest Pennsylvania

2150
01:25:12,489 --> 01:25:09,440
to spread to many other parts of the

2151
01:25:14,799 --> 01:25:12,499
state it continued into 1974 it was

2152
01:25:16,810 --> 01:25:14,809
unprecedented and our teams were out

2153
01:25:18,879 --> 01:25:16,820
there day and night we're doing this

2154
01:25:20,950 --> 01:25:18,889
around our jobs but we were covering

2155
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:20,960
these cases pretty well so in many cases

2156
01:25:25,689 --> 01:25:23,570
we're on the scene within minutes hours

2157
01:25:27,759 --> 01:25:25,699
after they occurred and that's why we

2158
01:25:31,390 --> 01:25:27,769
could document it so quickly and that's

2159
01:25:33,970 --> 01:25:31,400
when we came up with a very very bizarre

2160
01:25:36,819 --> 01:25:33,980
band interesting information concerning

2161
01:25:38,649 --> 01:25:36,829
UFOs and Bigfoot bizarre in what respect

2162
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:38,659
what kind of information about UFOs and

2163
01:25:43,540 --> 01:25:41,210
Bigfoot are you talking about okay well

2164
01:25:45,189 --> 01:25:43,550
you know when I started this long time

2165
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:45,199
ago when I was a youngster now I was

2166
01:25:48,879 --> 01:25:46,610
interested in Bigfoot reports and I

2167
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:48,889
began to investigate some Bigfoot

2168
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:50,090
sightings or in Penn State in the late

2169
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:51,170
1960s

2170
01:25:56,379 --> 01:25:54,050
well I always was open mind to the

2171
01:25:58,359 --> 01:25:56,389
possibility that a Bigfoot was real and

2172
01:26:00,399 --> 01:25:58,369
after having talked to some witnesses

2173
01:26:01,870 --> 01:26:00,409
around that time I believed that they

2174
01:26:03,459 --> 01:26:01,880
saw something out there they couldn't

2175
01:26:05,709 --> 01:26:03,469
explain away and I couldn't explain and

2176
01:26:07,930 --> 01:26:05,719
I thought that probably as many

2177
01:26:11,290 --> 01:26:07,940
researchers believe that it was some

2178
01:26:13,060 --> 01:26:11,300
type of unknown zoological specimen some

2179
01:26:16,109 --> 01:26:13,070
type of primate something along that

2180
01:26:18,609 --> 01:26:16,119
line but as these events run for tea in

2181
01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:18,619
1973 and a lot of these people get

2182
01:26:22,209 --> 01:26:20,239
remember back in those days you wouldn't

2183
01:26:24,549 --> 01:26:22,219
have the Internet there wasn't Peavy a

2184
01:26:27,399 --> 01:26:24,559
lot of TV shows about UFOs or Bigfoot

2185
01:26:29,290 --> 01:26:27,409
well people back then were very

2186
01:26:30,939 --> 01:26:29,300
frightened about the encounters they

2187
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:30,949
were having so many of them would

2188
01:26:34,180 --> 01:26:32,719
initially call the police and then I

2189
01:26:36,399 --> 01:26:34,190
would get the reports and we'll follow

2190
01:26:38,109 --> 01:26:36,409
up on them so as these reports

2191
01:26:39,580 --> 01:26:38,119
continuing and we're getting all these

2192
01:26:42,430 --> 01:26:39,590
Bigfoot sightings and many of them were

2193
01:26:44,529 --> 01:26:42,440
close range I mean very close range

2194
01:26:46,629 --> 01:26:44,539
some people were 15 to 20 feet away from

2195
01:26:48,279 --> 01:26:46,639
some less when these things were walking

2196
01:26:50,979 --> 01:26:48,289
out in front of cars and many in

2197
01:26:53,470 --> 01:26:50,989
daylight and in some cases more than one

2198
01:26:55,779 --> 01:26:53,480
creature seen together so we had very

2199
01:26:56,649 --> 01:26:55,789
very detailed information and our teams

2200
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:56,659
again are out there gathering

2201
01:27:00,129 --> 01:26:57,440
information

2202
01:27:01,350 --> 01:27:00,139
interviewing eyewitnesses so as reports

2203
01:27:03,810 --> 01:27:01,360
continue to come

2204
01:27:05,370 --> 01:27:03,820
in from widespread areas some strange

2205
01:27:07,890 --> 01:27:05,380
things began to come to our attention

2206
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:07,900
for example in some case our

2207
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:09,370
investigators we got to some of the

2208
01:27:13,170 --> 01:27:11,170
location we would find trail for

2209
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:13,180
footprints who would that suddenly stop

2210
01:27:16,590 --> 01:27:15,010
and disappear but you should have been

2211
01:27:19,590 --> 01:27:16,600
more tracks with the ground conditions

2212
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:19,600
we had other cases of people and we did

2213
01:27:23,370 --> 01:27:21,370
never recommend people shooting at these

2214
01:27:24,810 --> 01:27:23,380
creatures but there were numerous case

2215
01:27:25,980 --> 01:27:24,820
where people did shoot at them with

2216
01:27:28,860 --> 01:27:25,990
various type of weapons

2217
01:27:30,780 --> 01:27:28,870
nobody ever brought one down and you may

2218
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:30,790
recall we had a one very very

2219
01:27:36,060 --> 01:27:32,650
interesting case it was the case that

2220
01:27:38,430 --> 01:27:36,070
convinced me that we may be dealing with

2221
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:38,440
a phenomena with Bigfoot at least in

2222
01:27:42,390 --> 01:27:40,210
some cases where we're dealing with

2223
01:27:44,190 --> 01:27:42,400
something that may not be a normal flesh

2224
01:27:46,170 --> 01:27:44,200
and blood animal because in that case

2225
01:27:47,850 --> 01:27:46,180
the woman fired at the creature with a

2226
01:27:49,620 --> 01:27:47,860
shotgun at close range and it

2227
01:27:52,620 --> 01:27:49,630
disappeared in a Florence of Wight and

2228
01:27:55,290 --> 01:27:52,630
then we had a number of very well

2229
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:55,300
documented cases where UFOs and Bigfoot

2230
01:28:00,000 --> 01:27:57,250
were seen together at the same time in

2231
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:00,010
place so we can go into details from

2232
01:28:04,620 --> 01:28:02,290
those case if you like well alright so

2233
01:28:06,780 --> 01:28:04,630
the key here is that you feel there's a

2234
01:28:09,750 --> 01:28:06,790
connection because they're seen at the

2235
01:28:12,450 --> 01:28:09,760
same time in place that therefore what

2236
01:28:15,090 --> 01:28:12,460
are you suggesting that Bigfoot comes

2237
01:28:18,300 --> 01:28:15,100
out of a UFO and runs around what well

2238
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:18,310
not all because you know first of all we

2239
01:28:22,710 --> 01:28:20,110
got a look at the unexplained category

2240
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:22,720
of UFOs and I think we got to be honest

2241
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:24,610
in fact we don't know for sure what that

2242
01:28:29,670 --> 01:28:27,250
unexplained category of UFOs really is I

2243
01:28:30,390 --> 01:28:29,680
mean it's theoretically a lot of people

2244
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:30,400
believe these things are

2245
01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:32,290
extraterrestrial and I think maybe

2246
01:28:36,450 --> 01:28:34,450
probably maybe a small percentage of

2247
01:28:38,370 --> 01:28:36,460
these things might be extraterrestrial

2248
01:28:40,650 --> 01:28:38,380
some of these things could be unknown

2249
01:28:42,570 --> 01:28:40,660
natural phenomena I don't have the

2250
01:28:45,150 --> 01:28:42,580
answers I can only tell you what data

2251
01:28:47,940 --> 01:28:45,160
we're finding but also more and more

2252
01:28:49,140 --> 01:28:47,950
information of cases I've seen over the

2253
01:28:50,310 --> 01:28:49,150
years and talk to other researchers

2254
01:28:52,590 --> 01:28:50,320
around the country and around the world

2255
01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:52,600
come in contact with Bigfoot researchers

2256
01:28:56,460 --> 01:28:54,880
your for researchers more and more

2257
01:28:58,770 --> 01:28:56,470
especially with some of the Bigfoot

2258
01:29:01,320 --> 01:28:58,780
cases and even UFO cases I'm looking

2259
01:29:03,870 --> 01:29:01,330
into they seem to suggest we're dealing

2260
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:03,880
with phenomena that somehow is energy

2261
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:06,250
related it has a physical and a

2262
01:29:10,740 --> 01:29:08,560
non-physical component to it so it can

2263
01:29:13,290 --> 01:29:10,750
be physically solid leave behind

2264
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:13,300
physical evidence and then it's gone for

2265
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:15,050
example we take UFO

2266
01:29:18,819 --> 01:29:17,360
cases and some in daylight where people

2267
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:18,829
see when appear to be a solid physical

2268
01:29:23,859 --> 01:29:22,010
craft that physically changed form or

2269
01:29:26,020 --> 01:29:23,869
they suddenly appear and disappear

2270
01:29:29,020 --> 01:29:26,030
I've had other cases where I've had a

2271
01:29:31,149 --> 01:29:29,030
group of people and only a few people

2272
01:29:32,379 --> 01:29:31,159
within that group could see the object

2273
01:29:35,649 --> 01:29:32,389
where the other people couldn't see it

2274
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:35,659
so could it be that certain people have

2275
01:29:39,010 --> 01:29:37,130
certain abilities they're able to

2276
01:29:40,990 --> 01:29:39,020
perceive certain phenomena others can't

2277
01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:41,000
or the phenomena is tracked it to them

2278
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:43,520
so getting back to your question you

2279
01:29:47,649 --> 01:29:45,650
know do I think it Bigfoot is for

2280
01:29:49,990 --> 01:29:47,659
example riding in the UFO I've seen no

2281
01:29:51,580 --> 01:29:50,000
evidence for that we don't know and

2282
01:29:54,399 --> 01:29:51,590
again a lot of people are associating

2283
01:29:56,979 --> 01:29:54,409
UFOs being extraterrestrial maybe they

2284
01:29:58,180 --> 01:29:56,989
are maybe certain ones are that doesn't

2285
01:30:00,100 --> 01:29:58,190
necessarily mean that's we're dealing

2286
01:30:02,830 --> 01:30:00,110
with here we just don't have the answers

2287
01:30:04,629 --> 01:30:02,840
but there could be that the UFOs

2288
01:30:06,879 --> 01:30:04,639
interested in the Bigfoot or vice versa

2289
01:30:08,830 --> 01:30:06,889
we just don't know why this was going on

2290
01:30:10,419 --> 01:30:08,840
all right but let's get back to the

2291
01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:10,429
other question I have them you can

2292
01:30:14,620 --> 01:30:11,840
answer it in our next segment and that

2293
01:30:16,450 --> 01:30:14,630
is about so-called window areas I gather

2294
01:30:18,129 --> 01:30:16,460
from what you say that if enough people

2295
01:30:20,290 --> 01:30:18,139
are looking for things around a

2296
01:30:22,540 --> 01:30:20,300
particular region they will find more

2297
01:30:24,459 --> 01:30:22,550
instances of UFO sightings Bigfoot

2298
01:30:27,729 --> 01:30:24,469
Thunderbirds whatever it's not a

2299
01:30:29,500 --> 01:30:27,739
specific area that attracts more you can

2300
01:30:31,450 --> 01:30:29,510
answer on the other side Stan Gordon

2301
01:30:38,890 --> 01:30:31,460
joins Jeanne and Chris you're in the

2302
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para cast not just an alternative to the

2303
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mainstream media we're the premiere

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independent talk radio network

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we are G C n first came attack of the

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rockets and it was a critically

2307
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acclaimed success and now there is the

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coming of the protectors a former

2309
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military intelligence man is contacted

2310
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by a space woman in a dream a dream that

2311
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turns out to be a nightmare because evil

2312
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forces on our distant planet are

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planning to conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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[Music]

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01:34:58,660 --> 01:34:55,820
hi this is nuclear physicist lecturer

2407
01:35:02,320 --> 01:34:58,670
Stanton Friedman you are listening to

2408
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:02,330
the barricades the gold standard a

2409
01:35:12,430 --> 01:35:10,610
paranormal radio on the power cast with

2410
01:35:14,380 --> 01:35:12,440
Jean Steinberg and Chris O'Brien and

2411
01:35:16,060 --> 01:35:14,390
Chris is off this week on special

2412
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assignment he's in the location where

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there is no internet connection and no

2414
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connection that's reliable to a

2415
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cellphone Stan Gordon Pennsylvania

2416
01:35:26,650 --> 01:35:25,220
paranormal investigator joining us so

2417
01:35:28,810 --> 01:35:26,660
I'm gonna come back to a question that

2418
01:35:30,730 --> 01:35:28,820
we kind of got sidetracked with do you

2419
01:35:33,070 --> 01:35:30,740
believe there are specific areas for

2420
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:33,080
specific regions Pennsylvania anywhere

2421
01:35:39,190 --> 01:35:35,570
that attract more than their share of

2422
01:35:41,500 --> 01:35:39,200
strange events yes and I think I may

2423
01:35:43,390 --> 01:35:41,510
have mentioned the one area and it's a

2424
01:35:45,460 --> 01:35:43,400
hundred miles long so I can't give any

2425
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:45,470
specific area even though I'll mention

2426
01:35:50,710 --> 01:35:47,570
70 in a minute that area along the

2427
01:35:53,410 --> 01:35:50,720
Chestnut Ridge it has a much higher than

2428
01:35:54,940 --> 01:35:53,420
normal area of activity year after year

2429
01:35:57,610 --> 01:35:54,950
along that Ridge in those three counties

2430
01:35:59,650 --> 01:35:57,620
West one fed in Indiana County where a

2431
01:36:01,600 --> 01:35:59,660
lot of people report strange activity

2432
01:36:03,310 --> 01:36:01,610
whining area along the ridge and once

2433
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:03,320
more on County is outside of Latrobe

2434
01:36:08,260 --> 01:36:06,410
it's the area around Derry Township and

2435
01:36:11,020 --> 01:36:08,270
there's been a lot of sightings almost

2436
01:36:13,630 --> 01:36:11,030
year after year we get we hear a Bigfoot

2437
01:36:15,910 --> 01:36:13,640
activity we had a Thunderbird sighting

2438
01:36:18,730 --> 01:36:15,920
there last year in May in daylight we've

2439
01:36:20,620 --> 01:36:18,740
had a lot of UFO activity other strange

2440
01:36:23,140 --> 01:36:20,630
occurrences there's a lot of activity

2441
01:36:25,210 --> 01:36:23,150
right around that area why we have no

2442
01:36:25,990 --> 01:36:25,220
idea I mean we looked into the geology

2443
01:36:27,790 --> 01:36:26,000
of the ridge

2444
01:36:29,530 --> 01:36:27,800
we're looking at different aspects of

2445
01:36:32,050 --> 01:36:29,540
what's around there and we've never been

2446
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:32,060
able to find anything in particular or

2447
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:34,730
what might be the reason for this and

2448
01:36:40,750 --> 01:36:37,730
also at times you get this periodic

2449
01:36:42,490 --> 01:36:40,760
outbreak of other cryptid creatures for

2450
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:42,500
example back in the 80s and another in

2451
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:43,730
the northern part of Westmoreland County

2452
01:36:47,890 --> 01:36:46,370
we are getting reports of Bigfoot

2453
01:36:49,420 --> 01:36:47,900
sightings going on in this rural area

2454
01:36:52,060 --> 01:36:49,430
and various people were seeing it and

2455
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:52,070
about the same time we begin to have an

2456
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:55,250
outbreak of black panther sightings in

2457
01:37:00,040 --> 01:36:57,410
the same area so sometimes something

2458
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:00,050
like that occurs so if you go go back in

2459
01:37:04,139 --> 01:37:02,210
the history you look in the Carolinas we

2460
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:04,149
had the outbreak of the Lizardman

2461
01:37:08,790 --> 01:37:07,090
yeah the Mothman outbreak of the late

2462
01:37:11,060 --> 01:37:08,800
60s in West Virginia which isn't that

2463
01:37:13,679 --> 01:37:11,070
far from where I met and I found out

2464
01:37:15,389 --> 01:37:13,689
many many years later that about the

2465
01:37:17,250 --> 01:37:15,399
same time that the Mothman was being

2466
01:37:19,859 --> 01:37:17,260
seen down West Virginia there were a

2467
01:37:21,239 --> 01:37:19,869
couple incidents of that same thing or

2468
01:37:23,459 --> 01:37:21,249
something similar being seen in the

2469
01:37:26,270 --> 01:37:23,469
Pittsburgh area but they were never made

2470
01:37:29,489 --> 01:37:26,280
public they were kept quiet so at times

2471
01:37:32,250 --> 01:37:29,499
you have these outbreaks of certain

2472
01:37:34,649 --> 01:37:32,260
areas where these things occur and I'm 1

2473
01:37:37,199 --> 01:37:34,659
to the top of my head you're aware of

2474
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:37,209
Ted Phillips who was working very close

2475
01:37:41,669 --> 01:37:39,010
with dr. Hynek for years and years on

2476
01:37:43,679 --> 01:37:41,679
physical trace cases of UFOs

2477
01:37:45,089 --> 01:37:43,689
I guess several years ago he got

2478
01:37:49,319 --> 01:37:45,099
involved in investigation which I

2479
01:37:51,689 --> 01:37:49,329
believe was out in I think was Illinois

2480
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:51,699
but I'm not positive but he called it

2481
01:37:57,659 --> 01:37:54,489
Marley Woods right I think that's

2482
01:37:59,850 --> 01:37:57,669
Missouri although the exact location

2483
01:38:02,369 --> 01:37:59,860
Missouri and he got involved in this

2484
01:38:04,379 --> 01:38:02,379
area we're all kind of paranormal

2485
01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:04,389
phenomena is going on from UFO sightings

2486
01:38:08,699 --> 01:38:07,119
Thunderbird reports Bigfoot is in the

2487
01:38:11,850 --> 01:38:08,709
same kind of thing that I was finding

2488
01:38:14,069 --> 01:38:11,860
years ago these things we hear about in

2489
01:38:15,959 --> 01:38:14,079
certain areas you've got the skinwalker

2490
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:15,969
ranch for example a lot of people heard

2491
01:38:19,319 --> 01:38:18,010
about that there are other areas of the

2492
01:38:20,909 --> 01:38:19,329
country that I have heard from two other

2493
01:38:23,790 --> 01:38:20,919
research where these things are going on

2494
01:38:26,399 --> 01:38:23,800
one thing I found years ago many people

2495
01:38:28,709 --> 01:38:26,409
in the UFO field don't want to have any

2496
01:38:30,149 --> 01:38:28,719
association with Bigfoot and many in the

2497
01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:30,159
Bigfoot community don't want to connect

2498
01:38:35,549 --> 01:38:33,280
Bigfoot in UFOs my position is as a

2499
01:38:37,770 --> 01:38:35,559
researcher these are the cases were

2500
01:38:39,540 --> 01:38:37,780
uncovering and documenting we're not I'm

2501
01:38:41,639 --> 01:38:39,550
not looking for these cases I never

2502
01:38:43,979 --> 01:38:41,649
expected to have these events turn up

2503
01:38:45,929 --> 01:38:43,989
but I'm not to get dismiss them and say

2504
01:38:47,969 --> 01:38:45,939
they're not happening it's important to

2505
01:38:49,739 --> 01:38:47,979
study these cases to try to find out

2506
01:38:52,580 --> 01:38:49,749
more details it shares this information

2507
01:38:55,259 --> 01:38:52,590
and hopefully more and more

2508
01:38:57,509 --> 01:38:55,269
investigators and witnesses will come

2509
01:39:00,270 --> 01:38:57,519
forward so more people can study it and

2510
01:39:01,649 --> 01:39:00,280
I have seen in more recent years and I

2511
01:39:03,629 --> 01:39:01,659
know there's been a lot of response to

2512
01:39:05,790 --> 01:39:03,639
my solid invasion book which focuses on

2513
01:39:07,469 --> 01:39:05,800
these cases that I've had a very

2514
01:39:09,540 --> 01:39:07,479
positive response from throughout the

2515
01:39:12,060 --> 01:39:09,550
country and out of the country and many

2516
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:12,070
more people in the Bigfoot field seem to

2517
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:14,530
be becoming more and more open-minded to

2518
01:39:18,970 --> 01:39:17,330
the fact that there may be more to the

2519
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:18,980
Bigfoot phenomena then we understand

2520
01:39:23,440 --> 01:39:20,930
because the question I've asked for

2521
01:39:23,950 --> 01:39:23,450
years and years is it doesn't make any

2522
01:39:25,780 --> 01:39:23,960
sense

2523
01:39:27,340 --> 01:39:25,790
after so many Bigfoot sightings right

2524
01:39:28,630 --> 01:39:27,350
how many years throughout the country

2525
01:39:31,150 --> 01:39:28,640
and throughout the world of something

2526
01:39:32,650 --> 01:39:31,160
similar and yet by now we still have

2527
01:39:34,570 --> 01:39:32,660
very little physical evidence and no

2528
01:39:37,870 --> 01:39:34,580
body something just doesn't make sense

2529
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:37,880
here no matter how rare an animal is we

2530
01:39:42,430 --> 01:39:40,370
have skeletal remains I mean I've never

2531
01:39:44,740 --> 01:39:42,440
come across a beer up a bear carcass out

2532
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:44,750
in the woods but the zoo's around here

2533
01:39:49,150 --> 01:39:47,330
for them so there's a seems to be

2534
01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:49,160
something else going on here and with

2535
01:39:53,140 --> 01:39:50,960
some of the weird cases we documented

2536
01:39:54,910 --> 01:39:53,150
it's suggest that we may be dealing with

2537
01:39:56,980 --> 01:39:54,920
something that might be for a better

2538
01:39:58,690 --> 01:39:56,990
term inter-dimensional okay I have a

2539
01:40:00,790 --> 01:39:58,700
question from one of our listeners it

2540
01:40:05,110 --> 01:40:00,800
might be appropriate right now the

2541
01:40:09,310 --> 01:40:05,120
listeners name is techno-magic

2542
01:40:11,980 --> 01:40:09,320
not magnate majid and question number

2543
01:40:14,830 --> 01:40:11,990
one is I live in New Jersey are there

2544
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:14,840
any hot spots in New Jersey and have you

2545
01:40:18,580 --> 01:40:16,970
had any cases in New Jersey that's kind

2546
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:18,590
of out of your coverage area isn't it

2547
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:21,170
that's correct yeah I've heard stories

2548
01:40:24,910 --> 01:40:23,090
from New York and New Jersey I deal

2549
01:40:27,790 --> 01:40:24,920
mainly in Pennsylvania because I'm just

2550
01:40:31,090 --> 01:40:27,800
overwhelmed Pennsylvania alone it never

2551
01:40:32,500 --> 01:40:31,100
ends and so I deal with that I do talk

2552
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:32,510
to researchers throughout the country

2553
01:40:36,580 --> 01:40:35,210
I've heard of you know a number of

2554
01:40:39,070 --> 01:40:36,590
different events you know of course the

2555
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:39,080
Jersey Devil historically has always had

2556
01:40:42,820 --> 01:40:40,610
a lot of interest but I've heard about

2557
01:40:44,830 --> 01:40:42,830
Bigfoot encounters up there and giant

2558
01:40:47,710 --> 01:40:44,840
bird sightings and other entities so I

2559
01:40:50,140 --> 01:40:47,720
think it goes on almost everywhere but I

2560
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:50,150
can't not give you any particular area

2561
01:40:55,270 --> 01:40:52,370
so there's nothing you could measure

2562
01:40:57,370 --> 01:40:55,280
about these areas that seems to say why

2563
01:40:59,290 --> 01:40:57,380
they attract more of these events

2564
01:41:01,630 --> 01:40:59,300
nothing but you could determine except

2565
01:41:03,820 --> 01:41:01,640
that they do well myself and other

2566
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:03,830
researchers here years and years ago I

2567
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:05,090
mean as we're getting a lot of this

2568
01:41:10,450 --> 01:41:08,960
activity we did study the geology I mean

2569
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:10,460
there's that there's a non-active

2570
01:41:14,260 --> 01:41:12,050
earthquake fault going through the

2571
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:14,270
Chestnut Ridge but I don't see any

2572
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:16,730
connection with that and it's just

2573
01:41:20,410 --> 01:41:18,530
nothing has turned up except the one

2574
01:41:23,710 --> 01:41:20,420
thing we keep finding is that there's a

2575
01:41:26,350 --> 01:41:23,720
lot of power sources quite often in the

2576
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:26,360
areas where these events occur all right

2577
01:41:31,180 --> 01:41:30,410
power sources so they hang out at power

2578
01:41:34,270 --> 01:41:31,190
stations

2579
01:41:36,970 --> 01:41:34,280
clear or just regular I'm glad I met at

2580
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:36,980
various Heights non-nuclear most of the

2581
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:39,890
time but again a lot of the sightings

2582
01:41:44,950 --> 01:41:43,250
occur along high-tension power lines you

2583
01:41:47,260 --> 01:41:44,960
know one case that's very interesting

2584
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:47,270
people used to bring up to me years and

2585
01:41:50,650 --> 01:41:49,040
years ago and they used to say well how

2586
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:50,660
come people never see UFOs over

2587
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:53,330
populated areas and I can tell you that

2588
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:55,010
has changed so dramatically over the

2589
01:41:58,450 --> 01:41:56,570
last twenty thirty years I mean we have

2590
01:42:00,820 --> 01:41:58,460
multitudes of sightings here in

2591
01:42:02,410 --> 01:42:00,830
Pennsylvania one another another state

2592
01:42:04,420 --> 01:42:02,420
but York Pennsylvania we've had

2593
01:42:04,990 --> 01:42:04,430
sightings over down in downtown

2594
01:42:07,060 --> 01:42:05,000
Pittsburgh

2595
01:42:09,310 --> 01:42:07,070
we had a big cigar shaped object that

2596
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:09,320
hovered at a at a suburb of Pittsburgh

2597
01:42:14,410 --> 01:42:11,810
near squirrel a number of years ago we

2598
01:42:16,780 --> 01:42:14,420
had a very interesting detail UFO

2599
01:42:18,670 --> 01:42:16,790
incident we're a very large saucer

2600
01:42:21,100 --> 01:42:18,680
shaped object with windows and symbols

2601
01:42:23,620 --> 01:42:21,110
covered over a house two years ago in

2602
01:42:25,420 --> 01:42:23,630
the Bloomfield area Pittsburgh and that

2603
01:42:25,990 --> 01:42:25,430
was just a few hours after we had a car

2604
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:26,000
chase

2605
01:42:29,890 --> 01:42:27,650
then eastern Pennsylvania it was

2606
01:42:31,959 --> 01:42:29,900
reported let's go back to the car chase

2607
01:42:35,140 --> 01:42:31,969
for a moment I just think of the day of

2608
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:35,150
our case back in the 60s where two

2609
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:38,210
police officers chase a UFO from Ohio to

2610
01:42:42,189 --> 01:42:40,130
Pennsylvania so what kind of car chase

2611
01:42:44,189 --> 01:42:42,199
we talking about here well the one you

2612
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:44,199
thought about as I recall is April 17

2613
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:48,290
1966 and that car chase came in too

2614
01:42:51,910 --> 01:42:50,330
outside of the Pittsburgh area so it was

2615
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:51,920
interesting and I hadn't had numerous

2616
01:42:55,180 --> 01:42:53,930
car chases this event I'm going from

2617
01:42:58,330 --> 01:42:55,190
memory neuron has a report right in

2618
01:43:01,870 --> 01:42:58,340
front of me but this was in April I

2619
01:43:03,490 --> 01:43:01,880
believe it was two years ago I blinked

2620
01:43:06,189 --> 01:43:03,500
anyhow this was down outside of

2621
01:43:09,130 --> 01:43:06,199
Lancaster and a husband and wife were in

2622
01:43:10,780 --> 01:43:09,140
a car and they noticed this spherical

2623
01:43:13,180 --> 01:43:10,790
object hovering in the distance over a

2624
01:43:14,709 --> 01:43:13,190
field and they began to move close to

2625
01:43:17,380 --> 01:43:14,719
this thing because it looked so strange

2626
01:43:20,380 --> 01:43:17,390
unusual and this thing's hovering and

2627
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:20,390
I'm as I recall she went to take a

2628
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:23,210
picture of it and her camera flashed and

2629
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:25,850
when it did this thing began to follow

2630
01:43:29,950 --> 01:43:28,400
their vehicle down the road and this

2631
01:43:32,890 --> 01:43:29,960
balled it for quite a distance in this

2632
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:32,900
rural area and it ended up getting I

2633
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:34,850
believe about 20 feet from the car

2634
01:43:40,900 --> 01:43:37,130
overhead till as bad as long as a school

2635
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:40,910
bus and the guy wanted a high rate of

2636
01:43:44,770 --> 01:43:42,410
speed to try to get away from this thing

2637
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:44,780
and finally it left the area

2638
01:43:49,420 --> 01:43:47,690
and it was not that long afterwards and

2639
01:43:52,060 --> 01:43:49,430
again I have to look at the to report I

2640
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:52,070
can't remember - three hours later we

2641
01:43:56,770 --> 01:43:53,930
had this report in the suburb of

2642
01:44:01,210 --> 01:43:56,780
Pittsburgh of this very large structured

2643
01:44:03,550 --> 01:44:01,220
craft very very detailed report and this

2644
01:44:05,140 --> 01:44:03,560
thing the guy was coming home from a

2645
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:05,150
friend's house a neighbor's is watchin

2646
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:07,520
TV there and he happened as I recall

2647
01:44:11,290 --> 01:44:09,920
happens a trip on a tree trunk and he

2648
01:44:13,150 --> 01:44:11,300
looked up and here's this thing about

2649
01:44:15,130 --> 01:44:13,160
forty feet over hovering over the top of

2650
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:15,140
his house and he couldn't believe what

2651
01:44:19,660 --> 01:44:16,850
he's saying and this wasn't a light I

2652
01:44:23,020 --> 01:44:19,670
mean this was a large structured craft

2653
01:44:26,250 --> 01:44:23,030
and it had I believe a number of windows

2654
01:44:30,250 --> 01:44:26,260
in it it had some like triangular

2655
01:44:33,310 --> 01:44:30,260
hieroglyphic like symbols on it and he

2656
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:33,320
ran into the house to get his father to

2657
01:44:40,090 --> 01:44:37,370
come out and as I think accelerated to

2658
01:44:43,420 --> 01:44:40,100
the sky I believe it was like some type

2659
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:43,430
of uh there was a spiral II cloudy like

2660
01:44:47,170 --> 01:44:45,890
vortex it kind of opened up and this

2661
01:44:49,930 --> 01:44:47,180
thing went up into that and and

2662
01:44:52,270 --> 01:44:49,940
disappeared and interestingly within

2663
01:44:54,340 --> 01:44:52,280
that 24-hour period I was getting other

2664
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:54,350
reports from around the state a cable

2665
01:44:59,350 --> 01:44:55,970
describing a similar type of like a

2666
01:45:02,290 --> 01:44:59,360
vortex thing was being seen for that 24

2667
01:45:05,050 --> 01:45:02,300
hours in fact I know if you go onto my

2668
01:45:07,270 --> 01:45:05,060
website and you go back through sighting

2669
01:45:10,420 --> 01:45:07,280
reports and UFOs you'll find a detailed

2670
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:10,430
report on that case yes Stan Gordon hey

2671
01:45:14,020 --> 01:45:12,290
selling us now about recent UFO

2672
01:45:16,900 --> 01:45:14,030
sightings so those of you who have heard

2673
01:45:17,770 --> 01:45:16,910
that UFO cases aren't happening like

2674
01:45:20,470 --> 01:45:17,780
they used to

2675
01:45:26,540 --> 01:45:20,480
well that's not the case with Gene and

2676
01:45:32,310 --> 01:45:29,910
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2679
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2680
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2681
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:43,030
hits new highs the middle class are

2682
01:45:48,420 --> 01:45:45,970
dying manipulated financial markets and

2683
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:48,430
economic figures chaos on our border

2684
01:45:53,610 --> 01:45:50,770
China and Russia bypassing the dollar

2685
01:45:55,650 --> 01:45:53,620
life is getting ready to change you need

2686
01:45:58,920 --> 01:45:55,660
to prepare to thrive in the new economy

2687
01:46:01,170 --> 01:45:58,930
go to baby boomer back-up plan calm or

2688
01:46:03,330 --> 01:46:01,180
call eight eight eight five zero seven

2689
01:46:05,730 --> 01:46:03,340
eight seven eight nine that's eight

2690
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:05,740
eight eight five zero seven eight seven

2691
01:46:10,020 --> 01:46:08,290
eight nine hi this is Ted Anderson have

2692
01:46:11,580 --> 01:46:10,030
you ever wondered why banks stockbrokers

2693
01:46:13,500 --> 01:46:11,590
investment advisors won't talk about

2694
01:46:15,420 --> 01:46:13,510
gold IRAs they've been available since

2695
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:15,430
nineteen eighty six yet the financial

2696
01:46:18,870 --> 01:46:17,170
industry won't recognize the value of

2697
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:18,880
gold for your retirement goal has

2698
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:20,890
outperformed paper investments yet no

2699
01:46:25,770 --> 01:46:22,810
word about IRAs if you would like to

2700
01:46:28,530 --> 01:46:25,780
have gold for your retirement call 866

2701
01:46:31,710 --> 01:46:28,540
to 237 don't get left behind by rising

2702
01:46:45,620 --> 01:46:31,720
inflation and low returns call 866 to

2703
01:46:45,630 --> 01:47:31,400
[Music]

2704
01:47:36,540 --> 01:47:34,320
1-866-376-8255

2705
01:47:39,860 --> 01:47:36,550
foods available anywhere for a long-term

2706
01:47:39,870 --> 01:47:45,270
[Music]

2707
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:48,669
welcome back to to the para cast the

2708
01:48:01,570 --> 01:47:52,850
gold standard of paranormal radio and

2709
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:01,580
now here's Jane Steinberg on the para

2710
01:48:07,150 --> 01:48:04,090
cast I'm Jean Steinberg he's Stan Gordon

2711
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:07,160
UFO investigator paranormal investigator

2712
01:48:11,500 --> 01:48:09,290
pointing out here that if you ever

2713
01:48:14,830 --> 01:48:11,510
believe that people no longer see UFOs

2714
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:14,840
no longer chase UFOs no longer have

2715
01:48:19,990 --> 01:48:17,210
incredible encounters will they do you

2716
01:48:23,169 --> 01:48:20,000
mention another case there where another

2717
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:23,179
UFO had lettering on it in recent years

2718
01:48:27,070 --> 01:48:25,370
I don't think the one I just mentioned

2719
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:27,080
was one over the Bloomfield area of

2720
01:48:31,689 --> 01:48:29,449
Pittsburgh with the the big metallic

2721
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:31,699
saucer shaped saucer shaped object was

2722
01:48:37,300 --> 01:48:34,130
hovering and he could actually he said

2723
01:48:39,330 --> 01:48:37,310
it was like triangular markings on I

2724
01:48:41,919 --> 01:48:39,340
believe is what I wanted to say

2725
01:48:44,979 --> 01:48:41,929
triangular marking site I believe they

2726
01:48:47,020 --> 01:48:44,989
were like triangles like an insignia in

2727
01:48:48,189 --> 01:48:47,030
the form of triangles I believe he said

2728
01:48:50,410 --> 01:48:48,199
I'd have to go back through that report

2729
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:50,420
it's been a while since I looked at it

2730
01:48:55,540 --> 01:48:53,090
but it's on my website okay and another

2731
01:48:57,970 --> 01:48:55,550
really interesting UFO case probably one

2732
01:49:00,340 --> 01:48:57,980
the best I've had in years it was one of

2733
01:49:02,260 --> 01:49:00,350
those cases we used to hear about in the

2734
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:02,270
classic reports back in the 50s and 60s

2735
01:49:07,689 --> 01:49:04,730
but this just happened June 1st of last

2736
01:49:10,900 --> 01:49:07,699
year on a major highway this was Ralph's

2737
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:10,910
30 East 25 miles and so from Pittsburgh

2738
01:49:15,700 --> 01:49:13,130
here in Westmoreland County a little bit

2739
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:15,710
after 10 o'clock at night a woman who

2740
01:49:19,060 --> 01:49:17,330
didn't believe in UFOs until this

2741
01:49:21,100 --> 01:49:19,070
experience and a three-year-old child

2742
01:49:23,939 --> 01:49:21,110
they're coming out of a convenience

2743
01:49:27,010 --> 01:49:23,949
store to making a left on route 30

2744
01:49:29,140 --> 01:49:27,020
eastbound and as he's riding down the

2745
01:49:31,540 --> 01:49:29,150
road she suddenly has to almost stop in

2746
01:49:33,700 --> 01:49:31,550
the middle of route 30 here's this huge

2747
01:49:37,180 --> 01:49:33,710
object about 60 feet above the roadway

2748
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:37,190
about 55 feet long taking up all four

2749
01:49:42,970 --> 01:49:39,920
lanes of the highway it's it's a big

2750
01:49:45,100 --> 01:49:42,980
metallic rectangular object it's making

2751
01:49:46,959 --> 01:49:45,110
absolutely no sound the lighting

2752
01:49:49,270 --> 01:49:46,969
configuration when she went in a great

2753
01:49:52,419 --> 01:49:49,280
detail completely unlike any type of

2754
01:49:55,630 --> 01:49:52,429
normal navigational lighting her little

2755
01:49:57,939 --> 01:49:55,640
thrill child yells mommy flying iPad in

2756
01:49:59,830 --> 01:49:57,949
the sky and she has to

2757
01:50:02,430 --> 01:49:59,840
has underneath this thing to go home

2758
01:50:05,140 --> 01:50:02,440
when she passes underneath the object

2759
01:50:08,319 --> 01:50:05,150
the electronics and the dash of her car

2760
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:08,329
all goes out her clock goes out for FM

2761
01:50:11,739 --> 01:50:09,679
radio station she was listening to

2762
01:50:13,089 --> 01:50:11,749
because off the air she was talking on

2763
01:50:13,899 --> 01:50:13,099
the cell phone she lost her cell phone

2764
01:50:15,729 --> 01:50:13,909
signal

2765
01:50:17,500 --> 01:50:15,739
she tried to take a picture with her

2766
01:50:19,689 --> 01:50:17,510
iPhone that wouldn't let her go into the

2767
01:50:22,359 --> 01:50:19,699
photo mode and when she went down the

2768
01:50:24,399 --> 01:50:22,369
road all the latronnik scheme back on so

2769
01:50:27,129 --> 01:50:24,409
it was a very detailed case I spent a

2770
01:50:29,469 --> 01:50:27,139
lot of time on it that person became a

2771
01:50:30,969 --> 01:50:29,479
UFO believer she realized she saw

2772
01:50:33,790 --> 01:50:30,979
something she had no explanation for

2773
01:50:36,669 --> 01:50:33,800
we're getting more reports of these

2774
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:36,679
large rectangular or box shaped objects

2775
01:50:40,899 --> 01:50:38,449
in recent years and in fact in recent

2776
01:50:44,259 --> 01:50:40,909
months earlier this year I was getting

2777
01:50:46,689 --> 01:50:44,269
daylight reports of huge black rectangle

2778
01:50:48,759 --> 01:50:46,699
objects right over the treetops down on

2779
01:50:51,100 --> 01:50:48,769
what we call the Mon Valley area outside

2780
01:50:52,930 --> 01:50:51,110
of Pittsburgh well now do the

2781
01:50:55,449 --> 01:50:52,940
authorities have any comments about

2782
01:50:58,149 --> 01:50:55,459
these various cases any responses at all

2783
01:50:59,649 --> 01:50:58,159
or do they just ignore them well you

2784
01:51:02,350 --> 01:50:59,659
know things are a lot different today

2785
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:02,360
because most of these people anymore you

2786
01:51:05,770 --> 01:51:04,130
know now that we have the Internet there

2787
01:51:07,149 --> 01:51:05,780
a lot of people don't call the

2788
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:07,159
authorities like they used to back in

2789
01:51:12,219 --> 01:51:10,130
the 70s and 80s a lot of them contact me

2790
01:51:15,729 --> 01:51:12,229
directly and their first request is

2791
01:51:18,699 --> 01:51:15,739
please don't use my name so very there's

2792
01:51:20,410 --> 01:51:18,709
nine probably 95% of the reports that I

2793
01:51:22,239 --> 01:51:20,420
hear about except what do you see on my

2794
01:51:24,850 --> 01:51:22,249
website and not all reports are on there

2795
01:51:29,140 --> 01:51:24,860
a guy just them backed up are not

2796
01:51:31,779 --> 01:51:29,150
publicly known quite often I'll find

2797
01:51:33,729 --> 01:51:31,789
witnesses weekdays weeks or months later

2798
01:51:36,399 --> 01:51:33,739
other witnesses will independently

2799
01:51:38,259 --> 01:51:36,409
contact me and confirm the same reports

2800
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:38,269
from the same general area which is what

2801
01:51:41,319 --> 01:51:39,650
I had with one of those you put through

2802
01:51:44,020 --> 01:51:41,329
the black triangles on scene that

2803
01:51:47,500 --> 01:51:44,030
particular afternoon and so the

2804
01:51:49,899 --> 01:51:47,510
authorities in many many cases don't get

2805
01:51:51,969 --> 01:51:49,909
involved very often now a lot of times

2806
01:51:54,459 --> 01:51:51,979
when you'll get an article in the paper

2807
01:51:57,009 --> 01:51:54,469
locally when some mass sighting will

2808
01:51:58,689 --> 01:51:57,019
occur and that genly is a tribute to if

2809
01:52:00,189 --> 01:51:58,699
you have a big bright fireball media or

2810
01:52:02,830 --> 01:52:00,199
come over and a lot of people calling in

2811
01:52:05,140 --> 01:52:02,840
that's one thing but to see a large

2812
01:52:07,540 --> 01:52:05,150
cigar-shaped object a big Frank object

2813
01:52:09,129 --> 01:52:07,550
hovering over the roadway very rarely

2814
01:52:12,209 --> 01:52:09,139
does that make the news like it used to

2815
01:52:16,020 --> 01:52:12,219
many years ago so it's a normal event

2816
01:52:18,390 --> 01:52:16,030
excuse me so it's a normal event well

2817
01:52:19,950 --> 01:52:18,400
the meteor would be a normal event and

2818
01:52:21,989 --> 01:52:19,960
that's what quite often makes the papers

2819
01:52:24,299 --> 01:52:21,999
but a lot of people see very strange

2820
01:52:25,919 --> 01:52:24,309
report to reluctant rain publicity so

2821
01:52:28,589 --> 01:52:25,929
very rarely does it ever get into the

2822
01:52:31,410 --> 01:52:28,599
news okay so everybody has an iPhone or

2823
01:52:33,719 --> 01:52:31,420
a samsung phone nowadays hundreds of

2824
01:52:36,029 --> 01:52:33,729
millions around the world yet when we do

2825
01:52:38,609 --> 01:52:36,039
see photos of alleged UFOs it's just

2826
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:38,619
lights in the sky indistinct as if we're

2827
01:52:44,089 --> 01:52:40,690
seeing these big rectangles and

2828
01:52:46,649 --> 01:52:44,099
cigar-shaped craft where are the photos

2829
01:52:48,419 --> 01:52:46,659
and you know I've asked their questions

2830
01:52:50,250 --> 01:52:48,429
for years and there are photos I mean I

2831
01:52:51,959 --> 01:52:50,260
get pictures in your pretty office we

2832
01:52:53,399 --> 01:52:51,969
get photos and videos and one of my

2833
01:52:55,529 --> 01:52:53,409
associates is pretty good at doing

2834
01:52:57,629 --> 01:52:55,539
analysis on them and so we look at them

2835
01:52:59,910 --> 01:52:57,639
but you're right many of them are not

2836
01:53:02,189 --> 01:52:59,920
very clear the problem is a lot of these

2837
01:53:04,469 --> 01:53:02,199
are night sightings and the digital

2838
01:53:06,629 --> 01:53:04,479
cameras are not designed to take

2839
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:06,639
detailed photos of something high in the

2840
01:53:10,529 --> 01:53:09,130
sky at night especially when they're

2841
01:53:13,229 --> 01:53:10,539
moving these things a little bit to get

2842
01:53:15,029 --> 01:53:13,239
a lot of motion problems with them so

2843
01:53:17,279 --> 01:53:15,039
it's really hard to determine in some

2844
01:53:20,419 --> 01:53:17,289
cases what people are saying but on

2845
01:53:23,729 --> 01:53:20,429
occasion we get lucky back believe was

2846
01:53:25,739 --> 01:53:23,739
2007 in a little town near Youngwood

2847
01:53:27,359 --> 01:53:25,749
Pennsylvania three people were riding

2848
01:53:29,759 --> 01:53:27,369
down the road when they see this very

2849
01:53:31,770 --> 01:53:29,769
large diamond-shaped object right over

2850
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:31,780
the treetops it's very large object very

2851
01:53:36,870 --> 01:53:34,090
detailed and the woman luckily had just

2852
01:53:39,629 --> 01:53:36,880
bought a new cell phone camera uh and

2853
01:53:41,100 --> 01:53:39,639
she had a night mode shot on it and she

2854
01:53:43,379 --> 01:53:41,110
got one very good picture of this thing

2855
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:43,389
before it did suddenly vanish in front

2856
01:53:47,430 --> 01:53:45,610
of her eyes so there was a really good

2857
01:53:49,350 --> 01:53:47,440
detailed picture there and in fact it's

2858
01:53:51,419 --> 01:53:49,360
I in my really mysterious Pennsylvania

2859
01:53:53,939 --> 01:53:51,429
book there's a photograph of it but on

2860
01:53:57,089 --> 01:53:53,949
occasion that happened the other strange

2861
01:53:58,979 --> 01:53:57,099
part of this is the fact that I just

2862
01:54:01,680 --> 01:53:58,989
talked to you about the woman tried to

2863
01:54:04,469 --> 01:54:01,690
take a picture of the rectangular object

2864
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:04,479
but it would not for whatever reason she

2865
01:54:08,430 --> 01:54:06,489
couldn't get into the camera mode it

2866
01:54:10,890 --> 01:54:08,440
wouldn't function properly I've heard

2867
01:54:14,580 --> 01:54:10,900
those reports for years from witnesses

2868
01:54:17,399 --> 01:54:14,590
both with Bigfoot and UFOs and I believe

2869
01:54:21,060 --> 01:54:17,409
was a couple days before that incident

2870
01:54:24,299 --> 01:54:21,070
on June 1st that a man from Virginia

2871
01:54:25,990 --> 01:54:24,309
contacted me and told me where he was in

2872
01:54:29,020 --> 01:54:26,000
a large vehicle or

2873
01:54:32,260 --> 01:54:29,030
truck and this very large trailer object

2874
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:32,270
hovered nearby he had a brand new annals

2875
01:54:35,380 --> 01:54:34,370
a camera or a cell phone with a camera

2876
01:54:38,830 --> 01:54:35,390
function in it

2877
01:54:40,780 --> 01:54:38,840
he tried several different times they

2878
01:54:43,090 --> 01:54:40,790
aimed that camera and get photographing

2879
01:54:46,060 --> 01:54:43,100
every time the aim the camera would not

2880
01:54:48,070 --> 01:54:46,070
function so we hear these things every

2881
01:54:50,770 --> 01:54:48,080
once in a while so that happens as well

2882
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:50,780
but what most commonly turns up is this

2883
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:52,490
and this guy who had the Thunderbirds

2884
01:54:56,170 --> 01:54:53,930
sunny other day says you know what he

2885
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:56,180
said I add Mike Mike phone I could have

2886
01:55:00,220 --> 01:54:57,650
taken a pictures thing but it only lasts

2887
01:55:01,690 --> 01:55:00,230
for 20 seconds that I was so shocked to

2888
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:01,700
see what I saw

2889
01:55:05,500 --> 01:55:03,290
that I didn't even think about to

2890
01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:05,510
afterwards and that is very common so

2891
01:55:10,570 --> 01:55:08,480
many witnesses who encounter a Bigfoot

2892
01:55:13,300 --> 01:55:10,580
or a UFO other phenomena they're so

2893
01:55:15,490 --> 01:55:13,310
shocked not prepared to see what they're

2894
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:15,500
about to see most never believe these

2895
01:55:19,870 --> 01:55:17,330
things until they address observation

2896
01:55:21,340 --> 01:55:19,880
they're so sharp and then afterwards

2897
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:21,350
they thought I can't believe I didn't

2898
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:22,610
take a picture and that's very common

2899
01:55:28,030 --> 01:55:24,800
now just to let listeners know if you

2900
01:55:30,730 --> 01:55:28,040
have an iPhone with iOS 7 or later in

2901
01:55:34,810 --> 01:55:30,740
90% of those with iPhones have them they

2902
01:55:38,350 --> 01:55:34,820
have a camera icon on the lock screen so

2903
01:55:40,450 --> 01:55:38,360
if you tap the lock screens camera icon

2904
01:55:43,510 --> 01:55:40,460
you should be able to bring up the

2905
01:55:46,690 --> 01:55:43,520
camera to take a fast photo this is just

2906
01:55:49,030 --> 01:55:46,700
give you a possibility here that this

2907
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:49,040
way if you see something strange you'll

2908
01:55:53,170 --> 01:55:50,450
be able to capture photo but then you

2909
01:55:56,290 --> 01:55:53,180
have to hold it and aim it it's not like

2910
01:55:58,150 --> 01:55:56,300
you instantaneously get a picture as you

2911
01:56:01,780 --> 01:55:58,160
say you have to remember to take the

2912
01:56:05,250 --> 01:56:01,790
thing out of your pocket or purse tap

2913
01:56:08,620 --> 01:56:05,260
the lock screen tap the camera icon

2914
01:56:11,890 --> 01:56:08,630
focus you know a UFO may be out of range

2915
01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:11,900
by then or you'll be so startled that

2916
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:13,280
you'll never capture the picture but you

2917
01:56:18,790 --> 01:56:15,920
understand Stan where the skeptics are

2918
01:56:21,790 --> 01:56:18,800
going to continue to say that there are

2919
01:56:23,710 --> 01:56:21,800
no UFOs because if they were UFOs with

2920
01:56:27,070 --> 01:56:23,720
all the cameras around we'd get

2921
01:56:28,540 --> 01:56:27,080
compelling movies and still pictures of

2922
01:56:31,860 --> 01:56:28,550
course at night it's gonna be lights in

2923
01:56:34,290 --> 01:56:31,870
the sky no matter what you do exactly

2924
01:56:36,970 --> 01:56:34,300
there's some decent pictures out there

2925
01:56:39,790 --> 01:56:36,980
like I said I've gotten quite a lot of

2926
01:56:42,010 --> 01:56:39,800
photos and videos in some of them says

2927
01:56:44,319 --> 01:56:42,020
something interesting better not enough

2928
01:56:44,919 --> 01:56:44,329
to prove anything and it's just how it

2929
01:56:46,930 --> 01:56:44,929
is today

2930
01:56:49,510 --> 01:56:46,940
you know again I'm on the position where

2931
01:56:51,250 --> 01:56:49,520
I have never seen one personally I've

2932
01:56:53,020 --> 01:56:51,260
you interviewed thousands of people I've

2933
01:56:55,689 --> 01:56:53,030
seen together lots of interesting

2934
01:56:58,689 --> 01:56:55,699
evidence over the years I'm convinced

2935
01:57:00,939 --> 01:56:58,699
from the data that I've gathered over so

2936
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:00,949
many years and working with a lot of

2937
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:02,570
scientific people were very skeptical

2938
01:57:05,950 --> 01:57:04,250
and then became believers themselves

2939
01:57:08,229 --> 01:57:05,960
that there's phenomena that we don't

2940
01:57:09,850 --> 01:57:08,239
have explanations for but once again

2941
01:57:12,310 --> 01:57:09,860
I've never seen one myself

2942
01:57:14,379 --> 01:57:12,320
I notice you very cautious about saying

2943
01:57:16,419 --> 01:57:14,389
whether it's et interdimensional or

2944
01:57:18,220 --> 01:57:16,429
something else and I think that's a lot

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better than what some people do which is

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02:02:05,210 --> 02:02:02,580
Gordon joining us in the para cast they

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02:02:06,830 --> 02:02:05,220
have the Kecksburg UFO festival coming

3037
02:02:08,900 --> 02:02:06,840
this weekend probably when you hear this

3038
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:08,910
show tell us briefly about the event

3039
02:02:14,030 --> 02:02:11,370
before we go on well you know Tex burg

3040
02:02:16,970 --> 02:02:14,040
is not Roswell it's a very small rural

3041
02:02:20,750 --> 02:02:16,980
community and it's an event this is a

3042
02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:20,760
ninth annual with a cold fashion and UFO

3043
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:23,690
festival and of course is the 49th year

3044
02:02:28,100 --> 02:02:26,010
commemorating the UFO incident happened

3045
02:02:29,660 --> 02:02:28,110
coming up in T several nights of course

3046
02:02:31,610 --> 02:02:29,670
some of the Kecksburg firemen were

3047
02:02:34,550 --> 02:02:31,620
involved that night and some of the

3048
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:34,560
activities are you know helping to close

3049
02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:36,690
the roads down around the impact area

3050
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:39,090
helping with traffic control helping the

3051
02:02:43,550 --> 02:02:41,010
State Police so there were some that

3052
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:43,560
remember the case well people who had

3053
02:02:46,970 --> 02:02:45,090
relatives or friends involved that night

3054
02:02:49,100 --> 02:02:46,980
I know now the community are having this

3055
02:02:50,750 --> 02:02:49,110
event and it gets bigger and bigger

3056
02:02:53,210 --> 02:02:50,760
every year they have many many unique

3057
02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:53,220
events that you won't find at other type

3058
02:02:58,220 --> 02:02:55,890
of festivals they do different things

3059
02:02:59,630 --> 02:02:58,230
and they have what they do like a what

3060
02:03:02,300 --> 02:02:59,640
they call a bucket brigade and hit

3061
02:03:03,590 --> 02:03:02,310
hay-bale toss on the bed race and they

3062
02:03:04,730 --> 02:03:03,600
have her famous smoke in the valley

3063
02:03:06,740 --> 02:03:04,740
burnout contest

3064
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:06,750
they'll have their out-of-this-world hot

3065
02:03:11,180 --> 02:03:08,490
dog eating contest Sunday afternoon

3066
02:03:11,930 --> 02:03:11,190
which is right before the three UFO and

3067
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:11,940
Bigfoot corner

3068
02:03:16,189 --> 02:03:14,250
which we generally get hundreds and

3069
02:03:18,020 --> 02:03:16,199
hundreds of people come in for this and

3070
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:18,030
we've had people came in last year bleep

3071
02:03:22,700 --> 02:03:20,250
as far away as Canada and other parts of

3072
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:22,710
the country so it's a real funny event

3073
02:03:27,470 --> 02:03:24,690
we have a parade Saturday at two o'clock

3074
02:03:31,010 --> 02:03:27,480
and they give award show like the best

3075
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:31,020
UFO entry best UFO costume best UFO cat

3076
02:03:36,170 --> 02:03:34,410
costume best UFO miters motorcycle and

3077
02:03:38,209 --> 02:03:36,180
they just have a lot of fun with it but

3078
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:38,219
we also have a display from area and

3079
02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:41,130
statewide researchers paranormal

3080
02:03:44,150 --> 02:03:42,330
researchers you have a Bigfoot

3081
02:03:45,530 --> 02:03:44,160
researchers they have displays and

3082
02:03:47,510 --> 02:03:45,540
people there you can talk to you about

3083
02:03:49,610 --> 02:03:47,520
your experiences they have a lot of

3084
02:03:51,410 --> 02:03:49,620
really good food a lot of fun events and

3085
02:03:52,939 --> 02:03:51,420
so if you're in the Kecksburg air you

3086
02:03:56,150 --> 02:03:52,949
can get on my website Stan Gordon dot

3087
02:03:58,850 --> 02:03:56,160
info does the information on there a

3088
02:04:02,270 --> 02:03:58,860
number you can call for information is

3089
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:02,280
seven two four four two three nine five

3090
02:04:08,450 --> 02:04:05,730
four oh and so the event technically

3091
02:04:10,550 --> 02:04:08,460
starts Friday night after six o'clock

3092
02:04:12,770 --> 02:04:10,560
we'll have vendors there and all the

3093
02:04:15,590 --> 02:04:12,780
food is half off in the area this show

3094
02:04:17,870 --> 02:04:15,600
is gonna be on the last day right the

3095
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:17,880
conference a Sunday afternoon Saturday

3096
02:04:22,400 --> 02:04:19,410
and Sunday we'll have all the display

3097
02:04:24,229 --> 02:04:22,410
set up all right Tex burg UFO festival

3098
02:04:26,540 --> 02:04:24,239
so if you're hearing the show on the

3099
02:04:29,479 --> 02:04:26,550
Sunday morning and you're in and around

3100
02:04:32,090 --> 02:04:29,489
that particular part of Pennsylvania hey

3101
02:04:33,470 --> 02:04:32,100
it might be a fun outing to see it's got

3102
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:33,480
a butcher okay

3103
02:04:37,670 --> 02:04:35,850
now I'm gonna ask you a couple of quick

3104
02:04:41,209 --> 02:04:37,680
questions it may not be so quick in the

3105
02:04:43,729 --> 02:04:41,219
response and that is we discussed

3106
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:43,739
earlier about the possibility or lack

3107
02:04:49,939 --> 02:04:45,930
thereof that the Kecksburg UFO was a

3108
02:04:54,020 --> 02:04:49,949
government test aircraft never install a

3109
02:04:57,260 --> 02:04:54,030
in the early days of UFO research the

3110
02:04:59,600 --> 02:04:57,270
late 40s 50s etc of a high degree of

3111
02:05:01,610 --> 02:04:59,610
government involvement maybe because

3112
02:05:03,709 --> 02:05:01,620
they were test aircraft that were

3113
02:05:07,130 --> 02:05:03,719
mistaken for UFOs so have you seen

3114
02:05:08,780 --> 02:05:07,140
evidence of government involvement any

3115
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:08,790
of the things you do we can start with

3116
02:05:13,790 --> 02:05:10,410
Kecksburg because they supposedly took

3117
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:13,800
the craft away in a flatbed truck okay

3118
02:05:18,140 --> 02:05:15,930
so I didn't get the whole thing clearly

3119
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:18,150
are you asking me have I seen cases

3120
02:05:22,910 --> 02:05:20,370
where the government has an interest in

3121
02:05:24,950 --> 02:05:22,920
UFO event at UFO incidents any

3122
02:05:26,959 --> 02:05:24,960
government involvement whatever

3123
02:05:29,479 --> 02:05:26,969
we start with Tex Berg obvious

3124
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:29,489
government involvement I can tell you

3125
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:31,650
over the years that there have been a

3126
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:34,650
number of cases about UFOs and Bigfoot

3127
02:05:38,300 --> 02:05:36,810
which suggested that the government had

3128
02:05:41,540 --> 02:05:38,310
an interest in some of the cases I was

3129
02:05:44,090 --> 02:05:41,550
involved with this goes back to well of

3130
02:05:47,419 --> 02:05:44,100
course starts with Kecksburg but the

3131
02:05:50,030 --> 02:05:47,429
events of 1973 which I get involved in

3132
02:05:52,010 --> 02:05:50,040
when I read my salinization book it gets

3133
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:52,020
into that there was some interest from

3134
02:05:56,990 --> 02:05:54,690
the government representatives of our

3135
02:06:00,140 --> 02:05:57,000
investigation what was going on but

3136
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:00,150
there was also some very odd cases which

3137
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:01,530
might fall into the men and black

3138
02:06:07,100 --> 02:06:04,290
category that happened with some cases

3139
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:07,110
as well one of the the most interesting

3140
02:06:13,070 --> 02:06:10,170
case and probably the classic case of

3141
02:06:14,090 --> 02:06:13,080
all time in too long case I think I may

3142
02:06:16,130 --> 02:06:14,100
have talked about it before I've

3143
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:16,140
happened during that event on October

3144
02:06:22,700 --> 02:06:20,010
25th 1973 back in Fayette County again

3145
02:06:25,490 --> 02:06:22,710
I've talked about that area this was an

3146
02:06:27,260 --> 02:06:25,500
incident where that 24 hour period there

3147
02:06:29,149 --> 02:06:27,270
were a lot of UFO reports coming in from

3148
02:06:31,189 --> 02:06:29,159
around the state on my heart line but I

3149
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:31,199
got a call about 10:30 that night from a

3150
02:06:35,090 --> 02:06:33,090
state trooper from the Uniontown

3151
02:06:37,790 --> 02:06:35,100
barracks you just come back from

3152
02:06:40,490 --> 02:06:37,800
investigating this multiple witness UFO

3153
02:06:42,979 --> 02:06:40,500
landing and two Bigfoot creatures in the

3154
02:06:45,080 --> 02:06:42,989
field at the same time this case gets

3155
02:06:46,910 --> 02:06:45,090
very involved variables are not going to

3156
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:46,920
get into the whole thing but the basics

3157
02:06:53,810 --> 02:06:51,210
is that 15 people observe this barn size

3158
02:06:56,270 --> 02:06:53,820
red sphere about a hundred feet off the

3159
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:56,280
ground dropping towards the pasture all

3160
02:07:00,740 --> 02:06:58,560
these people seen around this area the

3161
02:07:02,330 --> 02:07:00,750
farmer son was out there at the time

3162
02:07:04,399 --> 02:07:02,340
coming down the farm line to visit his

3163
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:04,409
dad at his dad's farm where this was

3164
02:07:08,930 --> 02:07:07,110
taking place he saw it he goes to

3165
02:07:11,419 --> 02:07:08,940
another neighbor's home to get a

3166
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:11,429
different vantage point sees hissing

3167
02:07:15,500 --> 02:07:13,650
dropping E&T young boys the sides are

3168
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:15,510
going to go up to see what's going on he

3169
02:07:19,910 --> 02:07:17,010
runs over to his dad's farm

3170
02:07:22,370 --> 02:07:19,920
grabs a 30.6 and a handful of ammo and

3171
02:07:25,070 --> 02:07:22,380
that ammo was live ammo and a couple

3172
02:07:27,770 --> 02:07:25,080
tracers so they're just like flares just

3173
02:07:29,959 --> 02:07:27,780
give you a flash of light anyhow as are

3174
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:29,969
getting closer towards the pasture in

3175
02:07:34,220 --> 02:07:31,850
the distance dogs are going crazy

3176
02:07:35,450 --> 02:07:34,230
there's a high-pitched whining sound

3177
02:07:38,330 --> 02:07:35,460
like a baby

3178
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:38,340
baby's crying baby crying sound they get

3179
02:07:41,090 --> 02:07:38,730
up to the

3180
02:07:43,070 --> 02:07:41,100
top of the pasture and they're pretty

3181
02:07:45,050 --> 02:07:43,080
amazed of what they're seeing here's

3182
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:45,060
this object now is on the ground or

3183
02:07:50,900 --> 02:07:48,330
right above it about 250 feet away now

3184
02:07:52,670 --> 02:07:50,910
it's a bright white dome with the flat

3185
02:07:54,770 --> 02:07:52,680
bottom towards the ground those like a

3186
02:07:57,260 --> 02:07:54,780
half of the sphere and it's about a

3187
02:07:58,880 --> 02:07:57,270
hundred feet or so in diameter it's

3188
02:08:01,220 --> 02:07:58,890
light up the whole area making this

3189
02:08:03,080 --> 02:08:01,230
high-pitched whining sound there they're

3190
02:08:04,490 --> 02:08:03,090
standing there in amazement that just

3191
02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:04,500
can't figure out what this thing is but

3192
02:08:10,100 --> 02:08:07,650
as they're watching it their attention

3193
02:08:12,650 --> 02:08:10,110
goes towards the barbed-wire fence about

3194
02:08:15,050 --> 02:08:12,660
seventy five feet away because along

3195
02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:15,060
that fence are these two tall figures

3196
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:16,890
that are slowly walking in their

3197
02:08:21,860 --> 02:08:19,410
direction the posts are like six feet

3198
02:08:23,180 --> 02:08:21,870
tall the one in front this thing has to

3199
02:08:25,310 --> 02:08:23,190
be at least eight feet tall the other

3200
02:08:26,630 --> 02:08:25,320
one's about seven feet tall well as a

3201
02:08:28,130 --> 02:08:26,640
look at these things trying to figure

3202
02:08:30,110 --> 02:08:28,140
out what they are the first time they

3203
02:08:31,430 --> 02:08:30,120
got to be bear even though bears are

3204
02:08:33,320 --> 02:08:31,440
rarely seen around the area but they've

3205
02:08:36,440 --> 02:08:33,330
been seen but they realize these things

3206
02:08:38,330 --> 02:08:36,450
are bipedal they're very tall they have

3207
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:38,340
very long arms hanging down almost to

3208
02:08:42,380 --> 02:08:40,530
the ground the cub with long dark hair

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matted hair is hanging down from the

3210
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body and from the arms they have glowing

3211
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green eyes - making this baby crying

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sound and they can't believe what

3213
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they're saying so as these things are

3214
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slowly walking towards them one of the

3215
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boys first yell and shoot him shoot him

3216
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and the one kid takes off out of the

3217
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field he's so scared finally the guy

3218
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fires the tracer see if this got that

3219
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glare that trail and then he fires the

3220
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second tracer so when he fires that

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second tracer the largest of the two

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creature reaches out his hand and makes

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his loud crying whining sound and

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reaches out is that the grab at that

3225
02:09:24,140 --> 02:09:21,870
tracer and the exact moment it does that

3226
02:09:26,810 --> 02:09:24,150
the object in the field vanishes and

3227
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disappears it doesn't take off it's just

3228
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gone and all that bright illumination

3229
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disappears that the objects gone

3230
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everything is going and now I understand

3231
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:36,780
this is really weird

3232
02:09:39,860 --> 02:09:38,370
but I'm going back to government

3233
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involvement which was the original

3234
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question okay which is what else do we

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see especially in the early days of the

3236
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UFO field government involvement

3237
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government disinformation government

3238
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possibly manipulating event

3239
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to make it seem and we'll have you

3240
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answer this question in our next segment

3241
02:10:01,509 --> 02:09:59,059
make it seem as if UFOs are being seen

3242
02:10:03,549 --> 02:10:01,519
but no that's not what happened and I

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will mention a book that you may not

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have heard about the rosetta deception

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from James carrion a former director of

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MUFON that we discussed last week and

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you might want to check out that book to

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see what I'm talking about

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and I like to get your insight into what

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the government may have done to impact

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the UFO mystery if Stan Gordon joining

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3358
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this is Nate Pope's you're listening to

3359
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the parrot rock

3360
02:14:50,209 --> 02:14:48,120
Stan Gordon is here of course they have

3361
02:14:52,130 --> 02:14:50,219
the Kecksburg UFO festival this weekend

3362
02:14:54,919 --> 02:14:52,140
so if you're listening to the show on

3363
02:14:57,020 --> 02:14:54,929
the Sunday morning you're in southwest

3364
02:14:58,750 --> 02:14:57,030
Pennsylvania want to check it out have

3365
02:15:01,090 --> 02:14:58,760
an outing that's the way to go so okay

3366
02:15:03,640 --> 02:15:01,100
government involvement disinformation

3367
02:15:06,860 --> 02:15:03,650
manipulating events stuff like that

3368
02:15:08,120 --> 02:15:06,870
let's focus strictly on that okay well

3369
02:15:11,030 --> 02:15:08,130
the reason I was giving the background

3370
02:15:12,830 --> 02:15:11,040
the cases is to bring in where may have

3371
02:15:15,169 --> 02:15:12,840
been the military interested in that

3372
02:15:16,970 --> 02:15:15,179
case so what happens is we spent a lot

3373
02:15:18,740 --> 02:15:16,980
of time on that investigation what we

3374
02:15:20,360 --> 02:15:18,750
didn't know two years later because we

3375
02:15:21,979 --> 02:15:20,370
kept in touch with the witness spent a

3376
02:15:23,810 --> 02:15:21,989
lot of time at the time during it happen

3377
02:15:26,270 --> 02:15:23,820
but over the years we kept going back

3378
02:15:27,860 --> 02:15:26,280
we never hypnotized him there was some

3379
02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:27,870
there was some odd things that happened

3380
02:15:31,939 --> 02:15:29,730
later on during the case we won't have

3381
02:15:34,490 --> 02:15:31,949
time to get into anyhow when we did a

3382
02:15:36,919 --> 02:15:34,500
follow up years later and we considered

3383
02:15:38,330 --> 02:15:36,929
doing hypnosis he said to us by sitting

3384
02:15:40,760 --> 02:15:38,340
like why do you want to hypnotize me

3385
02:15:42,649 --> 02:15:40,770
again and we said what are you talking

3386
02:15:45,320 --> 02:15:42,659
about me and he goes on to tell us that

3387
02:15:47,959 --> 02:15:45,330
about a week after it happened two men

3388
02:15:50,870 --> 02:15:47,969
came one into the Air Force uniform one

3389
02:15:52,130 --> 02:15:50,880
in a suit one guy had a briefcase he

3390
02:15:55,130 --> 02:15:52,140
always thought they were part of my

3391
02:15:57,080 --> 02:15:55,140
research group anyhow out of that

3392
02:16:00,080 --> 02:15:57,090
briefcase he pulled photographs of both

3393
02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:00,090
UFOs and Bigfoot and they wanted him to

3394
02:16:04,760 --> 02:16:02,250
show what pictures about the Bigfoot

3395
02:16:06,709 --> 02:16:04,770
UFOs look similar what he saw but they

3396
02:16:09,620 --> 02:16:06,719
also apparently hypnotized him at the

3397
02:16:12,189 --> 02:16:09,630
time and we never he never heard from

3398
02:16:14,419 --> 02:16:12,199
after that we followed we try to do

3399
02:16:15,500 --> 02:16:14,429
investigation research and try to find

3400
02:16:18,410 --> 02:16:15,510
out who these people were

3401
02:16:19,640 --> 02:16:18,420
and of course it was 1973 and the Air

3402
02:16:22,939 --> 02:16:19,650
Force had already been out of UFO

3403
02:16:24,950 --> 02:16:22,949
research officially since 1970 so we

3404
02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:24,960
don't know but that's just one of a

3405
02:16:28,820 --> 02:16:26,880
number of incidents over the years which

3406
02:16:30,770 --> 02:16:28,830
show the possibility that there wasn't

3407
02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:30,780
government interest I don't have any

3408
02:16:32,870 --> 02:16:32,490
case I can think of off the top of my

3409
02:16:34,820 --> 02:16:32,880
head

3410
02:16:36,980 --> 02:16:34,830
where the military came in and tried to

3411
02:16:38,900 --> 02:16:36,990
manipulate as you're talking about but I

3412
02:16:39,980 --> 02:16:38,910
had cases where there was some possible

3413
02:16:42,620 --> 02:16:39,990
government interest and some of my

3414
02:16:47,169 --> 02:16:42,630
events so do you think in all them that

3415
02:16:49,879 --> 02:16:47,179
maybe the government has caused UFO

3416
02:16:53,140 --> 02:16:49,889
reports by simply taking conventional

3417
02:16:55,700 --> 02:16:53,150
events and manipulating the publicity I

3418
02:16:57,560 --> 02:16:55,710
would say historically we've heard these

3419
02:16:58,280 --> 02:16:57,570
things I'm not saying necessarily case I

3420
02:17:00,709 --> 02:16:58,290
work with a pen

3421
02:17:02,839 --> 02:17:00,719
Vania but we've heard incidents from

3422
02:17:04,790 --> 02:17:02,849
around the country that I have not got

3423
02:17:06,709 --> 02:17:04,800
deeply involved in which suggested the

3424
02:17:09,020 --> 02:17:06,719
CIA and others may have been involved in

3425
02:17:11,180 --> 02:17:09,030
something along that line years ago but

3426
02:17:13,160 --> 02:17:11,190
I keep that open to the possibility with

3427
02:17:15,049 --> 02:17:13,170
some of the event especially in the

3428
02:17:16,940 --> 02:17:15,059
early days of the the forties and the

3429
02:17:19,370 --> 02:17:16,950
fifties the reason I mentioned that is

3430
02:17:24,080 --> 02:17:19,380
for example the first hand of the CIA

3431
02:17:26,390 --> 02:17:24,090
Rear Admiral RH Helen Carter joined the

3432
02:17:28,820 --> 02:17:26,400
board of directors the konk Board of

3433
02:17:31,190 --> 02:17:28,830
Governors at the time of NICAP major

3434
02:17:34,669 --> 02:17:31,200
Chios organization now understand that

3435
02:17:36,290 --> 02:17:34,679
Kehoe and Helen Cotter were friends they

3436
02:17:40,070 --> 02:17:36,300
were classmates at the Naval Academy

3437
02:17:42,500 --> 02:17:40,080
like 40 years previously but didn't that

3438
02:17:44,360 --> 02:17:42,510
at all if you were familiar with nycap

3439
02:17:47,270 --> 02:17:44,370
at the time give you a pause to wonder

3440
02:17:49,100 --> 02:17:47,280
oh sure I would believe so yeah you

3441
02:17:51,680 --> 02:17:49,110
heard some of those stories going back

3442
02:17:53,540 --> 02:17:51,690
to the the a pro days the nightcap days

3443
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:53,550
so you have to wonder if there was

3444
02:17:57,230 --> 02:17:54,960
something like that going on with some

3445
02:17:58,970 --> 02:17:57,240
of those cases all right but what do you

3446
02:18:01,220 --> 02:17:58,980
think do you think maybe the things that

3447
02:18:04,010 --> 02:18:01,230
we think are UFOs were really government

3448
02:18:05,510 --> 02:18:04,020
events well you know people have asked

3449
02:18:07,220 --> 02:18:05,520
me especially with all these reports

3450
02:18:08,839 --> 02:18:07,230
these big triangular objects that keep

3451
02:18:12,110 --> 02:18:08,849
appearing and I've had reports up in

3452
02:18:13,730 --> 02:18:12,120
Pennsylvania since the 1970s and my

3453
02:18:16,370 --> 02:18:13,740
feeling is a lot of these studies are

3454
02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:16,380
occurring again over populated areas so

3455
02:18:19,010 --> 02:18:18,450
I'm in daylight some it's very close

3456
02:18:21,709 --> 02:18:19,020
range

3457
02:18:25,100 --> 02:18:21,719
some were these things over hovering 50

3458
02:18:28,490 --> 02:18:25,110
60 feet above people my feeling is that

3459
02:18:30,650 --> 02:18:28,500
the government is not going to be using

3460
02:18:33,799 --> 02:18:30,660
some type of experimental aircraft on a

3461
02:18:35,330 --> 02:18:33,809
recurring basis over populated areas

3462
02:18:37,669 --> 02:18:35,340
when they have hundreds of miles a

3463
02:18:39,650 --> 02:18:37,679
restricted airspace in other parts of

3464
02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:39,660
the country to do this it just doesn't

3465
02:18:43,100 --> 02:18:41,010
make sense that they would be doing that

3466
02:18:45,620 --> 02:18:43,110
or it may be to misdirect attention

3467
02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:45,630
what's really going on well of course

3468
02:18:50,180 --> 02:18:48,210
all kinds of theories out there and of

3469
02:18:51,980 --> 02:18:50,190
course we don't know all we can tell you

3470
02:18:54,260 --> 02:18:51,990
is there's a lot of reports of going on

3471
02:18:56,870 --> 02:18:54,270
for years and years here in Pennsylvania

3472
02:18:59,959 --> 02:18:56,880
seen by many people over populated areas

3473
02:19:02,089 --> 02:18:59,969
that are very very strange unusual we

3474
02:19:03,860 --> 02:19:02,099
had a we had a massive sighting of a

3475
02:19:07,640 --> 02:19:03,870
very large maybe more than one object

3476
02:19:09,589 --> 02:19:07,650
back in February of 92 over Williamsport

3477
02:19:11,570 --> 02:19:09,599
Pennsylvania there are multitudes of

3478
02:19:11,990 --> 02:19:11,580
eyewitnesses it was making local papers

3479
02:19:14,450 --> 02:19:12,000
down there

3480
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:14,460
days I mean this thing was making a

3481
02:19:17,900 --> 02:19:16,290
tremendous noise where a lot of UFOs are

3482
02:19:20,089 --> 02:19:17,910
quiet sometimes are very noisy and

3483
02:19:21,919 --> 02:19:20,099
people running outside to see what was

3484
02:19:24,680 --> 02:19:21,929
rattling the windows to see this huge

3485
02:19:27,589 --> 02:19:24,690
metallic thing 250 feet or so off the

3486
02:19:29,240 --> 02:19:27,599
ground it's moving so slow the people

3487
02:19:31,009 --> 02:19:29,250
walking in or neetha keeping up with it

3488
02:19:34,310 --> 02:19:31,019
and there was a very detailed

3489
02:19:35,660 --> 02:19:34,320
investigation I mean we had involvement

3490
02:19:38,230 --> 02:19:35,670
at the time I remember with the Air

3491
02:19:40,339 --> 02:19:38,240
Force I think the Navy the FAA and

3492
02:19:43,339 --> 02:19:40,349
nobody could figure out what this thing

3493
02:19:45,620 --> 02:19:43,349
was where it came from where did it go I

3494
02:19:48,320 --> 02:19:45,630
had people I had police officers I saw

3495
02:19:50,180 --> 02:19:48,330
it I had people who were former military

3496
02:19:51,950 --> 02:19:50,190
people lives on Air Force bases who saw

3497
02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:51,960
this thing they said it was unlike

3498
02:19:56,270 --> 02:19:54,330
anything they had ever seen one person

3499
02:19:58,640 --> 02:19:56,280
said it was much bigger in size than a

3500
02:20:02,060 --> 02:19:58,650
c58 galaxy which was they used whenever

3501
02:20:04,850 --> 02:20:02,070
you just aircraft so these things keep

3502
02:20:05,960 --> 02:20:04,860
going on and they never stop now you

3503
02:20:07,310 --> 02:20:05,970
mentioned there were quite a few

3504
02:20:09,620 --> 02:20:07,320
sightings in the last couple of years

3505
02:20:11,420 --> 02:20:09,630
and we see them on your site if you

3506
02:20:13,370 --> 02:20:11,430
check your site we'll see a lot of

3507
02:20:16,190 --> 02:20:13,380
things happening a lot of these events

3508
02:20:21,230 --> 02:20:16,200
that are described and for our listeners

3509
02:20:23,090 --> 02:20:21,240
if you go to Stan Gordon dot info you'll

3510
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:23,100
check out his blog and your final of his

3511
02:20:28,010 --> 02:20:26,130
reports do you see more sightings in the

3512
02:20:29,300 --> 02:20:28,020
last few years than in previous years

3513
02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:29,310
and the reason I mentioned that is

3514
02:20:35,480 --> 02:20:31,410
because that's what it seems from MUFON

3515
02:20:38,750 --> 02:20:35,490
x' reports the MUFON Journal that 2012

3516
02:20:42,320 --> 02:20:38,760
13 possibly part of 14 a lot of things

3517
02:20:43,850 --> 02:20:42,330
going on well I would say this oh and

3518
02:20:45,290 --> 02:20:43,860
again I can't tell exactly what years

3519
02:20:48,380 --> 02:20:45,300
after I've lost track that was doing

3520
02:20:50,810 --> 02:20:48,390
this was so long but the 70s were

3521
02:20:52,430 --> 02:20:50,820
extremely busy the 80s were very very

3522
02:20:54,830 --> 02:20:52,440
busy and there were some specific years

3523
02:20:57,710 --> 02:20:54,840
that she had more cases and others and

3524
02:21:00,020 --> 02:20:57,720
reports come in steadily all year round

3525
02:21:03,080 --> 02:21:00,030
year after year and you're getting a lot

3526
02:21:05,210 --> 02:21:03,090
of reports but if you because you're

3527
02:21:06,500 --> 02:21:05,220
getting a lot of UFO reports that

3528
02:21:09,230 --> 02:21:06,510
doesn't necessarily mean they're

3529
02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:09,240
unexplainable reports because for

3530
02:21:12,830 --> 02:21:11,010
example around the holidays now you can

3531
02:21:14,300 --> 02:21:12,840
always depend on the fact that we're

3532
02:21:16,130 --> 02:21:14,310
gonna get a lot of Chinese lantern

3533
02:21:18,560 --> 02:21:16,140
sightings and people launching them so

3534
02:21:21,410 --> 02:21:18,570
you get multitude to reports on Chinese

3535
02:21:23,450 --> 02:21:21,420
lanterns well their UFO reports but you

3536
02:21:25,550 --> 02:21:23,460
can explain them and then you know in

3537
02:21:27,649 --> 02:21:25,560
the last few years we've had several

3538
02:21:29,689 --> 02:21:27,659
very large fireball meteors Bowl lights

3539
02:21:32,210 --> 02:21:29,699
came in over different parts of the

3540
02:21:34,309 --> 02:21:32,220
country some which penetrated into

3541
02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:34,319
Pennsylvania well when you have that

3542
02:21:38,479 --> 02:21:36,090
kind of event you have a multiple

3543
02:21:40,010 --> 02:21:38,489
witness report for many people seeing

3544
02:21:42,559 --> 02:21:40,020
this fiery object going across the sky

3545
02:21:45,229 --> 02:21:42,569
but there's an explanation so you may be

3546
02:21:47,300 --> 02:21:45,239
getting a lot of reports I haven't seen

3547
02:21:49,729 --> 02:21:47,310
any statistics but how many remain

3548
02:21:52,160 --> 02:21:49,739
unexplained is another thing one thing a

3549
02:21:53,870 --> 02:21:52,170
lot of people are not aware of and I

3550
02:21:56,929 --> 02:21:53,880
start looking this back in the 60s but

3551
02:21:59,510 --> 02:21:56,939
I'm seeing I would say a little bit more

3552
02:22:02,540 --> 02:21:59,520
activity in this aspect of UFOs in the

3553
02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:02,550
last several years is that there's this

3554
02:22:07,700 --> 02:22:05,010
particular area dealing with the small

3555
02:22:09,349 --> 02:22:07,710
objects that a lot of people not even

3556
02:22:10,939 --> 02:22:09,359
aware of their range anywhere from a few

3557
02:22:14,149 --> 02:22:10,949
inches about a foot in diameter

3558
02:22:15,679 --> 02:22:14,159
generally spherical and I've had

3559
02:22:17,780 --> 02:22:15,689
incidents with these things have entered

3560
02:22:20,210 --> 02:22:17,790
people's homes and their cars when the

3561
02:22:24,050 --> 02:22:20,220
windows were down we had a really

3562
02:22:25,880 --> 02:22:24,060
interesting case July 2012 beautiful

3563
02:22:28,280 --> 02:22:25,890
afternoon near State College

3564
02:22:30,139 --> 02:22:28,290
Pennsylvania interstate 80 fellows

3565
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:30,149
riding down the road and this big truck

3566
02:22:34,910 --> 02:22:32,010
night beautiful afternoon windows are

3567
02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:34,920
down notice it's a small sphere but as

3568
02:22:39,500 --> 02:22:37,439
big as a there's a tennis ball chasing

3569
02:22:42,380 --> 02:22:39,510
his truck and the passenger side window

3570
02:22:43,040 --> 02:22:42,390
this sphere entered into his cab and to

3571
02:22:45,920 --> 02:22:43,050
his truck

3572
02:22:49,099 --> 02:22:45,930
it floats all around it floats right up

3573
02:22:50,689 --> 02:22:49,109
to his leg it backs off it's floating

3574
02:22:52,580 --> 02:22:50,699
around him and it just goes right out

3575
02:22:54,380 --> 02:22:52,590
through the bed of the truck there was

3576
02:22:56,179 --> 02:22:54,390
another case one of my associates Jim

3577
02:22:59,809 --> 02:22:56,189
Brown worked on down on the West

3578
02:23:01,910 --> 02:22:59,819
Virginia PA border I believe within the

3579
02:23:04,550 --> 02:23:01,920
last year I can remember tackle with

3580
02:23:06,260 --> 02:23:04,560
date and two men we're out in the

3581
02:23:07,880 --> 02:23:06,270
country and they saw this light behind

3582
02:23:10,099 --> 02:23:07,890
their house they live out in the country

3583
02:23:12,469 --> 02:23:10,109
and they thought it was a murderer that

3584
02:23:14,090 --> 02:23:12,479
had grabbed her gun came around the side

3585
02:23:16,429 --> 02:23:14,100
of the house and this thing is only

3586
02:23:19,130 --> 02:23:16,439
about six feet off the ground and it's a

3587
02:23:21,019 --> 02:23:19,140
small solid sphere of light and when the

3588
02:23:23,660 --> 02:23:21,029
aims are laid out it shot straight up to

3589
02:23:25,849 --> 02:23:23,670
the sky and disappeared so these little

3590
02:23:28,819 --> 02:23:25,859
spheres these little what I call many

3591
02:23:30,679 --> 02:23:28,829
UFOs they're very interesting I've had

3592
02:23:32,809 --> 02:23:30,689
numerous reports of them over the years

3593
02:23:34,969 --> 02:23:32,819
it seems like I'm getting more reports

3594
02:23:36,290 --> 02:23:34,979
of them in the last several years but

3595
02:23:39,140 --> 02:23:36,300
that's something a lot of people don't

3596
02:23:41,631 --> 02:23:39,150
seem to be aware of but you're right

3597
02:23:43,251 --> 02:23:41,641
the thick of it over there in our next

3598
02:23:44,871 --> 02:23:43,261
segment and final segment of this

3599
02:23:48,051 --> 02:23:44,881
episode of the podcast I want to ask

3600
02:23:49,761 --> 02:23:48,061
Stan Gordon nakiya something's up does

3601
02:23:52,251 --> 02:23:49,771
he think the government knows the secret

3602
02:23:54,501 --> 02:23:52,261
or are they just as mystified as we are

3603
02:23:56,360 --> 02:23:54,511
what about things like the disclosure

3604
02:23:59,631 --> 02:23:56,370
movement that we hear from from time to

3605
02:24:01,791 --> 02:23:59,641
time where people demand via petition or

3606
02:24:04,610 --> 02:24:01,801
otherwise that we disclose the truth

3607
02:24:06,740 --> 02:24:04,620
about UFOs and we face it whether

3608
02:24:10,730 --> 02:24:06,750
they're space brothers space alien

3609
02:24:13,581 --> 02:24:10,740
invaders or something else who knows if

3610
02:24:16,251 --> 02:24:13,591
Stan Gordon longtime paranormal

3611
02:24:22,510 --> 02:24:16,261
researcher from Pennsylvania I'm Jean

3612
02:24:22,520 --> 02:24:26,340
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3613
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3619
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3620
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3621
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3622
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3623
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3624
02:25:00,880 --> 02:24:58,399
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3625
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3626
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3627
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3628
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3631
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3632
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3633
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3660
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3661
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3665
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3680
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3686
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3687
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3689
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3690
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3691
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3692
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3693
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3695
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3696
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3697
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people taking our money taking our time

3698
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3705
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us right now this is Curt seven the

3706
02:28:48,870 --> 02:28:46,989
author of UFO mystery danger and

3707
02:28:51,200 --> 02:28:48,880
listening to the podcast

3708
02:28:53,719 --> 02:28:51,210
[Music]

3709
02:28:57,800 --> 02:28:53,729
we have Stan warden for one more segment

3710
02:28:59,929 --> 02:28:57,810
exploring the torrent of UFO sightings

3711
02:29:01,910 --> 02:28:59,939
and other paranormal events in

3712
02:29:03,950 --> 02:29:01,920
Pennsylvania as you see he's got a

3713
02:29:05,439 --> 02:29:03,960
wealth of them all sorts of cases

3714
02:29:08,870 --> 02:29:05,449
through the years Close Encounters

3715
02:29:10,099 --> 02:29:08,880
distant encounters Thunderbirds Bigfoot

3716
02:29:13,130 --> 02:29:10,109
everything let's put it all together

3717
02:29:14,689 --> 02:29:13,140
stand for this final segment okay there

3718
02:29:17,360 --> 02:29:14,699
are people demanding out their

3719
02:29:18,650 --> 02:29:17,370
disclosure that the government revealed

3720
02:29:21,219 --> 02:29:18,660
what it knows do you think the

3721
02:29:23,210 --> 02:29:21,229
government's really know anything well

3722
02:29:25,219 --> 02:29:23,220
here's what I've gotten over the years

3723
02:29:28,700 --> 02:29:25,229
from different people people have been

3724
02:29:32,030 --> 02:29:28,710
in the military my feeling is this I've

3725
02:29:33,590 --> 02:29:32,040
seen indications that the government may

3726
02:29:36,950 --> 02:29:33,600
be as very levels has the interest both

3727
02:29:40,189 --> 02:29:36,960
with UFOs and even Bigfoot and in regard

3728
02:29:42,500 --> 02:29:40,199
to UFOs and Bigfoot I think let's play

3729
02:29:44,389 --> 02:29:42,510
UFOs first they're very much aware of

3730
02:29:47,019 --> 02:29:44,399
the phenomena they take it very

3731
02:29:49,580 --> 02:29:47,029
seriously but my feeling is that

3732
02:29:50,960 --> 02:29:49,590
whatever we're dealing with they do not

3733
02:29:53,420 --> 02:29:50,970
have control over it gets an

3734
02:29:55,280 --> 02:29:53,430
international phenomena they and they

3735
02:29:57,349 --> 02:29:55,290
don't have all the answers themselves I

3736
02:29:58,880 --> 02:29:57,359
think there's mystified about as anybody

3737
02:30:00,530 --> 02:29:58,890
I think they know a lot more than

3738
02:30:03,200 --> 02:30:00,540
telling the public they don't have all

3739
02:30:04,849 --> 02:30:03,210
the answers as what's going on and I and

3740
02:30:06,969 --> 02:30:04,859
I think that they have a very big

3741
02:30:09,139 --> 02:30:06,979
interest in Bigfoot for what I what I've

3742
02:30:10,219 --> 02:30:09,149
come across from different researchers

3743
02:30:11,929 --> 02:30:10,229
and some of the cases I've had in

3744
02:30:14,420 --> 02:30:11,939
Pennsylvania I believe they have an

3745
02:30:16,309 --> 02:30:14,430
interest in Bigfoot and they're trying

3746
02:30:18,410 --> 02:30:16,319
to figure out what the phenomena is all

3747
02:30:21,439 --> 02:30:18,420
about and I've just got the feeling that

3748
02:30:23,630 --> 02:30:21,449
they're interested in some of the kind

3749
02:30:25,370 --> 02:30:23,640
of events that we've shown where these

3750
02:30:27,410 --> 02:30:25,380
things have peered out both of physical

3751
02:30:28,790 --> 02:30:27,420
and a non-physical aspect to them again

3752
02:30:30,860 --> 02:30:28,800
for a better term some be

3753
02:30:32,510 --> 02:30:30,870
interdimensional I think that they may

3754
02:30:34,729 --> 02:30:32,520
have an interest vist themselves that

3755
02:30:37,160 --> 02:30:34,739
are trying to find out what it is that's

3756
02:30:38,479 --> 02:30:37,170
behind this phenomena and because it's

3757
02:30:41,179 --> 02:30:38,489
unknown they won't reveal anything

3758
02:30:43,040 --> 02:30:41,189
that's you're in a position where they

3759
02:30:44,389 --> 02:30:43,050
just are not in control what's happening

3760
02:30:47,200 --> 02:30:44,399
and they don't have all the answers

3761
02:30:49,700 --> 02:30:47,210
themselves and they're probably very

3762
02:30:51,260 --> 02:30:49,710
reluctant or unable to come out with

3763
02:30:53,059 --> 02:30:51,270
this because they're just in a position

3764
02:30:55,309 --> 02:30:53,069
where they're not in control what's

3765
02:30:57,500 --> 02:30:55,319
going on okay so you don't believe for

3766
02:30:59,809 --> 02:30:57,510
example the claims by some of the

3767
02:31:02,330 --> 02:30:59,819
government knows what's happening behind

3768
02:31:04,380 --> 02:31:02,340
the scenes maybe they have the final

3769
02:31:06,479 --> 02:31:04,390
evidence from Roswell Kecksburg

3770
02:31:08,219 --> 02:31:06,489
or whatever and maybe even they're in

3771
02:31:09,059 --> 02:31:08,229
communication with aliens you don't

3772
02:31:11,340 --> 02:31:09,069
believe any of that

3773
02:31:13,439 --> 02:31:11,350
well III keeping up with my deposit but

3774
02:31:16,410 --> 02:31:13,449
but I I think once again they may be

3775
02:31:17,910 --> 02:31:16,420
aware that there's as myself that

3776
02:31:20,189 --> 02:31:17,920
there's more than one origin to the

3777
02:31:21,570 --> 02:31:20,199
unknown category maybe they know that

3778
02:31:23,460 --> 02:31:21,580
there is a certain percentage of might

3779
02:31:25,290 --> 02:31:23,470
be extraterrestrial but they might also

3780
02:31:28,139 --> 02:31:25,300
be aware that we're dealing with other

3781
02:31:30,330 --> 02:31:28,149
phenomena that is involved in these in

3782
02:31:32,370 --> 02:31:30,340
these cases but they don't know what it

3783
02:31:35,010 --> 02:31:32,380
is themselves and it might be much

3784
02:31:37,080 --> 02:31:35,020
straighter than just an interdimensional

3785
02:31:38,790 --> 02:31:37,090
it's an extraterrestrial origin at the

3786
02:31:41,149 --> 02:31:38,800
same time we see of course more and more

3787
02:31:44,370 --> 02:31:41,159
information about the discovery of

3788
02:31:48,149 --> 02:31:44,380
possible Goldilocks or M type planets

3789
02:31:50,969 --> 02:31:48,159
that may Harbor life around the galaxy

3790
02:31:52,800 --> 02:31:50,979
now something this is a gradual way for

3791
02:31:55,500 --> 02:31:52,810
the government to make people

3792
02:31:57,899 --> 02:31:55,510
comfortable with possibility that we're

3793
02:31:59,610 --> 02:31:57,909
being visited and then paved the way for

3794
02:32:01,860 --> 02:31:59,620
some revelation but if you don't believe

3795
02:32:03,510 --> 02:32:01,870
the government knows very much it

3796
02:32:06,210 --> 02:32:03,520
wouldn't make sense it's just a natural

3797
02:32:07,649 --> 02:32:06,220
growth of science well I want to get I

3798
02:32:08,969 --> 02:32:07,659
think the government probably knows

3799
02:32:12,540 --> 02:32:08,979
tremendously more than they're telling

3800
02:32:14,670 --> 02:32:12,550
the public but I just have the feeling

3801
02:32:16,530 --> 02:32:14,680
from what I've heard from others out in

3802
02:32:18,389 --> 02:32:16,540
the field that they're beginning to

3803
02:32:20,399 --> 02:32:18,399
realize that there is this is a much

3804
02:32:21,899 --> 02:32:20,409
more complicated phenomena same thing

3805
02:32:23,790 --> 02:32:21,909
I've discovered over the years and

3806
02:32:25,620 --> 02:32:23,800
there's no one easy explanation for the

3807
02:32:27,179 --> 02:32:25,630
unknown category there there are things

3808
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:27,189
out there as I said for years the

3809
02:32:32,179 --> 02:32:29,290
phenomena so strange it protects itself

3810
02:32:36,660 --> 02:32:32,189
have you seen evidence of any hostile

3811
02:32:41,099 --> 02:32:36,670
intent by UFOs you know of all the cases

3812
02:32:44,219 --> 02:32:41,109
I have it's not something that it really

3813
02:32:46,410 --> 02:32:44,229
shows up yeah you hear stories every

3814
02:32:48,630 --> 02:32:46,420
once in a while and you hear on a rare

3815
02:32:51,090 --> 02:32:48,640
occasion somebody who is positive been

3816
02:32:55,110 --> 02:32:51,100
injured by one but this may have been

3817
02:32:57,450 --> 02:32:55,120
just an indirect incident that involved

3818
02:33:00,630 --> 02:32:57,460
possibly a propulsion system but that's

3819
02:33:03,330 --> 02:33:00,640
so rare even with Bigfoot cases it's

3820
02:33:04,889 --> 02:33:03,340
it's not something that we see I mean

3821
02:33:06,960 --> 02:33:04,899
these things are very curious of people

3822
02:33:10,530 --> 02:33:06,970
they approach people closely but there's

3823
02:33:11,969 --> 02:33:10,540
no indication that they have any reason

3824
02:33:14,309 --> 02:33:11,979
to go harm people because we're just not

3825
02:33:16,349 --> 02:33:14,319
seeing that historically what about

3826
02:33:17,700 --> 02:33:16,359
other countries do you ever recover

3827
02:33:19,969 --> 02:33:17,710
cases or do

3828
02:33:24,120 --> 02:33:19,979
research into what's happening elsewhere

3829
02:33:25,560 --> 02:33:24,130
well I read what I can but again I'm so

3830
02:33:26,910 --> 02:33:25,570
busy just trying to keep up with what's

3831
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:26,920
happening here in the state of

3832
02:33:31,650 --> 02:33:30,250
Pennsylvania that I've pretty much kept

3833
02:33:34,050 --> 02:33:31,660
my focus on what's going on here in the

3834
02:33:35,820 --> 02:33:34,060
Keystone State so you have to just keep

3835
02:33:39,750 --> 02:33:35,830
up keeping up with the things that are

3836
02:33:41,490 --> 02:33:39,760
happening now as you progress and as we

3837
02:33:43,560 --> 02:33:41,500
all get older do you have people to take

3838
02:33:45,150 --> 02:33:43,570
over when you decide you know I've had

3839
02:33:48,510 --> 02:33:45,160
enough I might as well sit back and

3840
02:33:49,920 --> 02:33:48,520
retire well I'm retired from a real job

3841
02:33:51,060 --> 02:33:49,930
and I've been doing this a little more

3842
02:33:53,580 --> 02:33:51,070
even though I've spent a lot of time

3843
02:33:55,590 --> 02:33:53,590
babysitting my grandchildren but I'm

3844
02:33:57,900 --> 02:33:55,600
still very busy and active as long as I

3845
02:33:59,520 --> 02:33:57,910
can be and there are some younger

3846
02:34:01,740 --> 02:33:59,530
researchers in the area that are kind of

3847
02:34:03,330 --> 02:34:01,750
flying my footsteps now so hopefully

3848
02:34:05,820 --> 02:34:03,340
there'll be others that will take over

3849
02:34:09,030 --> 02:34:05,830
when the day comes do you talk about

3850
02:34:11,490 --> 02:34:09,040
UFOs with your grandchildren they're too

3851
02:34:12,750 --> 02:34:11,500
young to understand it yet so hopefully

3852
02:34:14,550 --> 02:34:12,760
when they get older won't be able to

3853
02:34:16,770 --> 02:34:14,560
discuss it who knows maybe one of them

3854
02:34:18,480 --> 02:34:16,780
will follow down in the past what about

3855
02:34:21,150 --> 02:34:18,490
your children

3856
02:34:23,730 --> 02:34:21,160
now my children there are out of the air

3857
02:34:26,490 --> 02:34:23,740
well they're not in position to be doing

3858
02:34:29,490 --> 02:34:26,500
research right now they have lives they

3859
02:34:30,290 --> 02:34:29,500
have lives when you were working what

3860
02:34:32,640 --> 02:34:30,300
did you do

3861
02:34:36,330 --> 02:34:32,650
working electronics filled all my life I

3862
02:34:37,650 --> 02:34:36,340
worked in electronics and that's pretty

3863
02:34:40,050 --> 02:34:37,660
much what I've done and now retired

3864
02:34:42,900 --> 02:34:40,060
almost three years ago electronics in

3865
02:34:45,360 --> 02:34:42,910
what respect well and your days working

3866
02:34:47,820 --> 02:34:45,370
some communication stuff and I worked in

3867
02:34:49,770 --> 02:34:47,830
all type of advanced electronic sales

3868
02:34:50,930 --> 02:34:49,780
and that type of thing and worked in it

3869
02:34:54,480 --> 02:34:50,940
for many many years

3870
02:34:57,840 --> 02:34:54,490
and it was a gig I guess we had enough

3871
02:35:00,360 --> 02:34:57,850
time to chase UFOs on the side well I

3872
02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:00,370
worked at around my job and calls we got

3873
02:35:03,900 --> 02:35:02,410
here day and night so I would get a

3874
02:35:05,820 --> 02:35:03,910
follow up on all the cases I had my

3875
02:35:08,610 --> 02:35:05,830
three groups over the years were very

3876
02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:08,620
very active and so we responded to

3877
02:35:12,750 --> 02:35:10,570
hundreds of hundreds of cases over the

3878
02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:12,760
years those groups they're no longer

3879
02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:15,610
around know but fortunately you know I

3880
02:35:21,540 --> 02:35:17,530
started the groups like I said the first

3881
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:21,550
of 1970 I was basically pretty much paid

3882
02:35:25,590 --> 02:35:23,050
for all the expenses out on my own

3883
02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:25,600
pocket for many many years back in those

3884
02:35:29,940 --> 02:35:28,330
days you know we had no email the cap to

3885
02:35:31,210 --> 02:35:29,950
pay for every stamp every phone call

3886
02:35:34,120 --> 02:35:31,220
things guys very expense

3887
02:35:35,260 --> 02:35:34,130
and did her for many many years but I've

3888
02:35:39,219 --> 02:35:35,270
been working at the independent

3889
02:35:41,830 --> 02:35:39,229
researcher since the end of 93 so for

3890
02:35:44,769 --> 02:35:41,840
the past 21 years it's just been stamp

3891
02:35:47,889 --> 02:35:44,779
that is correct what is it mrs. think

3892
02:35:50,170 --> 02:35:47,899
when you chase around the UFO case my

3893
02:35:52,029 --> 02:35:50,180
wife is very supportive in fact he's

3894
02:35:54,399 --> 02:35:52,039
gone out with some interviews of me and

3895
02:35:57,069 --> 02:35:54,409
she goes to a lot of the UFO events that

3896
02:35:59,349 --> 02:35:57,079
I speak at and so she's very supportive

3897
02:36:00,880 --> 02:35:59,359
of what I do all right what are your

3898
02:36:02,679 --> 02:36:00,890
plans of the future you're right books

3899
02:36:05,109 --> 02:36:02,689
occasionally you continue to cover the

3900
02:36:06,760 --> 02:36:05,119
sightings what do you expect to do over

3901
02:36:08,620 --> 02:36:06,770
the next few years we assume you're not

3902
02:36:10,500 --> 02:36:08,630
going to retire ever from UFO research

3903
02:36:14,080 --> 02:36:10,510
that's wrong

3904
02:36:16,660 --> 02:36:14,090
do I continue to get reports investigate

3905
02:36:18,819 --> 02:36:16,670
as many as I can continue to educate the

3906
02:36:21,910 --> 02:36:18,829
public I do a lot of lectures on both

3907
02:36:25,479 --> 02:36:21,920
locally nationally and do a lot of radio

3908
02:36:27,250 --> 02:36:25,489
and some TV shows on occasion and trying

3909
02:36:30,010 --> 02:36:27,260
to get information out there and quite

3910
02:36:31,750 --> 02:36:30,020
often it leads to very good leads where

3911
02:36:33,849 --> 02:36:31,760
people report some very important

3912
02:36:35,979 --> 02:36:33,859
sightings and sometimes those sightings

3913
02:36:38,830 --> 02:36:35,989
have very important little details that

3914
02:36:40,479 --> 02:36:38,840
gives us some insight as to what they

3915
02:36:42,969 --> 02:36:40,489
might be dealing with or some ideas

3916
02:36:44,649 --> 02:36:42,979
anyhow now I have a question it just

3917
02:36:50,260 --> 02:36:44,659
came in and we have no time to have it

3918
02:36:51,699 --> 02:36:50,270
answered from team sheepsquatch can you

3919
02:36:53,859 --> 02:36:51,709
talk more about the portal that's

3920
02:36:56,080 --> 02:36:53,869
believed to be in Derry Pennsylvania and

3921
02:36:58,029 --> 02:36:56,090
the surrounding Laurel Highlands you

3922
02:37:00,819 --> 02:36:58,039
kind of mentioned portal stuff before

3923
02:37:04,449 --> 02:37:00,829
but you have only 45 seconds to respond

3924
02:37:08,080 --> 02:37:04,459
I can tell you we don't know a lot and

3925
02:37:10,540 --> 02:37:08,090
by that area along the ridge for years

3926
02:37:12,250 --> 02:37:10,550
and years people continued year after

3927
02:37:14,949 --> 02:37:12,260
year to report different phenomena and

3928
02:37:17,620 --> 02:37:14,959
again a lot of Bigfoot sightings UFO

3929
02:37:19,660 --> 02:37:17,630
reports strange creature sightings other

3930
02:37:22,389 --> 02:37:19,670
anomalies up on top of the ridge over

3931
02:37:25,210 --> 02:37:22,399
the years we've looked into and we don't

3932
02:37:26,649 --> 02:37:25,220
know why but it happens and even this

3933
02:37:27,939 --> 02:37:26,659
year we've had we've heard reports not

3934
02:37:31,210 --> 02:37:27,949
to run that area of something going on

3935
02:37:33,790 --> 02:37:31,220
so we continue to go look at the into

3936
02:37:35,920 --> 02:37:33,800
those cases and hopefully someday we'll

3937
02:37:37,660 --> 02:37:35,930
have more information on it can you tell

3938
02:37:40,239 --> 02:37:37,670
our listeners where they can check out

3939
02:37:41,920 --> 02:37:40,249
more information about you okay well

3940
02:37:44,490 --> 02:37:41,930
they can get on my website which is Stan

3941
02:37:47,100 --> 02:37:44,500
Gordon dot info INF Oh

3942
02:37:48,690 --> 02:37:47,110
by books our invasion the Pennsylvania

3943
02:37:50,730 --> 02:37:48,700
for a Bigfoot case book you'll find some

3944
02:37:51,930 --> 02:37:50,740
amazing cases in it and really

3945
02:37:54,990 --> 02:37:51,940
mysterious Pennsylvania they're

3946
02:37:57,450 --> 02:37:55,000
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3947
02:38:00,960 --> 02:37:57,460
copies from our website and if they want

3948
02:38:04,980 --> 02:38:00,970
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3949
02:38:06,870 --> 02:38:04,990
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3950
02:38:08,640 --> 02:38:06,880
find us on Twitter we're known as the

3951
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:08,650
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3952
02:38:14,040 --> 02:38:12,160
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3953
02:38:16,170 --> 02:38:14,050
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3954
02:38:18,300 --> 02:38:16,180
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3955
02:38:20,730 --> 02:38:18,310
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3956
02:38:22,830 --> 02:38:20,740
planet calm if you buy a copy of

3957
02:38:25,050 --> 02:38:22,840
stalking the herd or any of his other

3958
02:38:27,870 --> 02:38:25,060
books from Chris's site he'll autograph

3959
02:38:30,300 --> 02:38:27,880
them with stalking the herd he'll even

3960
02:38:32,970 --> 02:38:30,310
number them it'll be worth more I think

3961
02:38:36,090 --> 02:38:32,980
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3962
02:38:38,490 --> 02:38:36,100
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3963
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3964
02:38:42,990 --> 02:38:40,900
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3965
02:38:53,610 --> 02:38:43,000
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3966
02:39:00,041 --> 02:38:57,131
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3967
02:39:03,030 --> 02:39:00,051
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3968
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